Establishing Value of Broken 4110

[Merrill]

Hello. I purchased a 2001 4110 with FEL in May 2023 with approximately 1650 hours. This week I was pushing some dirt around with the loader, I heard a "pop" and the clutch bell housing had broken apart. Everything worked good on the 4110 but now this. My first inclination is to sell the tractor as salvage. If so, how would I determine the value? I live in North Carolina. Does anyone know of a Mahindra salvage yard in this area?

Thank you.

 

[Merrill]

 

[hiddentacocatneddih]

That's one heck of a break. What's welded to the bell housing in the lower picture

 

[JJT]

Check with your local Kubota and John Deere dealers, that tractor would make a heck of an advertisement for what not to buy..... Sorry for your bad luck.

 

[Robin Veerman]

I’d say it’s seen a welder before! However, From what I can see it’s a clean break? Be a great project to split the tractor and have a pro welder put it back together. Quite unusual really…

 

[Harry in Ky]

That's one heck of a break. What's welded to the bell housing in the lower picture

Looks like that's a side frame. The weld is a poor man's solution to bolts breaking and/or frequently working loose.

 

[Harry in Ky]

Hello. I purchased a 2001 4110 with FEL in May 2023 with approximately 1650 hours. This week I was pushing some dirt around with the loader, I heard a "pop" and the clutch bell housing had broken apart. Everything worked good on the 4110 but now this. My first inclination is to sell the tractor as salvage. If so, how would I determine the value? I live in North Carolina. Does anyone know of a Mahindra salvage yard in this area?

Thank you.

It seems to me I recently saw a post somewhere from an individual with a 4110 who was looking for a motor and having no luck. You might visit a few other sites (if you haven't already) and troll it out there.

As for salvage yards, there are probably none that deal specifically Mahindra. That wouldn't be practical, no matter what the location. I'm betting you will get more selling parts (or whole) to private individuals than to a salvage yard.

 

[MTGreen]

Wow that's impressive!
Is the bellhousing integral to the transmission like most tractors or separate?
I would think that would affect the current value as sourcing/replacing a bell housing would be considerably cheaper than replacing a transmission case

 

[Hoss710]

have you looked into the possibility of your home owners insurance covering it?

 

[skipmarcy]

That vertical piece of thick plate is the plate between the engine and trans - it is bolted to the back of the engine, with several of the bolts behind the flywheel, then the bellhousing is bolted to the plate with a different bolt pattern. That horizontal gray plate is the tractor frame rail along the side of the engine. Those bolts that attach the vertical plate to the engine do not have ANYTHING to help hold them tight - no lock washers or Loctite. Mine loosened many years ago and the tractor started to come apart. It's obvious that this happened here and someone tried to weld the side frame of the tractor to that engine plate to hold it together instead of doing a split and changing bolts like I did and using Loctite on them. This is when I discovered TractorByNet all those years ago !! I related my experiences with Mahindra and the fix on my tractor back then. After the repair, this problem never occurred again. Mahindra could have avoided this catastrophy with $.02 worth of Loctite during assembly ...

 

[Willman]

Looks like front sub frame brace’s missing, from cross member to engine side plates

 

[skipmarcy]

Yes, that bracing is there if a loader is installed. My early 4110 (#0043) came with a factory installed loader new but did not have those braces - Mahindra gave me a set to install myself after I repaired the near-catastrophy as shown by the OP. The braces may or may not have kept the bolts from loosening, will never know in my case, but that was poor assembly not securing those bolts with no external access.

 

[Willman]

Yes, that bracing is there if a loader is installed. My early 4110 (#0043) came with a factory installed loader new but did not have those braces - Mahindra gave me a set to install myself after I repaired the near-catastrophy as shown by the OP. The braces may or may not have kept the bolts from loosening, will never know in my case, but that was poor assembly not securing those bolts with no external access.

Yes, the OP said he was using the loader, even though isn’t on in his photo

 

[Merrill]

Looks like front sub frame brace’s missing, from cross member to engine side plates

Willman, thank you for the reply. When I took the loader off the tractor, only 3 attachment points were used: the front cross bar in front of the grill and the left and right side mounts.

Can you send me a picture of the brace that is missing? That would be most helpful.

 

[Willman]

Willman, thank you for the reply. When I took the loader off the tractor, only 3 attachment points were used: the front cross bar in front of the grill and the left and right side mounts.

Can you send me a picture of the brace that is missing? That would be most helpful.

Photos of left and right, tried to find parts numbers but not shown in my loader manual
However the Bradco backhoe manual states & shows that these brackets need to be ordered from KMW the loader manufacturer
I believe this was an update to the loader sub frame sometime between 2001 your year and 2004 my year
The loader manual apparently was not updated
Hope this helps

 

[Merrill]

Photos of left and right, tried to find parts numbers but not shown in my loader manual
However the Bradco backhoe manual states & shows that these brackets need to be ordered from KMW the loader manufacturer
I believe this was an update to the loader sub frame sometime between 2001 your year and 2004 my year
The loader manual apparently was not updated
Hope this helps

Thank you sir. That is exactly what I needed to see.

 

[Offroadtek]

Thank you sir. That is exactly what I needed to s

Photos of left and right, tried to find parts numbers but not shown in my loader manual
However the Bradco backhoe manual states & shows that these brackets need to be ordered from KMW the loader manufacturer
I believe this was an update to the loader sub frame sometime between 2001 your year and 2004 my year
The loader manual apparently was not updated
Hope this helps

Those brackets are parts KMW12082019 and KMW12082018 on the Mahindra Parts Catalog. They show for ml112 bracket with S/N 03058028-CURRENT(04010233)

Now to find a set.

My local Mahindra dealer said they are Orderable parts, about $270 for the set. But they are out of stock with no ETA.

 

[Merrill]

Those brackets are parts KMW12082019 and KMW12082018 on the Mahindra Parts Catalog. They show for ml112 bracket with S/N 03058028-CURRENT(04010233)

Now to find a set.

My local Mahindra dealer said they are Orderable parts, about $270 for the set. But they are out of stock with no ETA.

Thanks for the info.

 

[Offroadtek]

I have not been able to find any new or used yet. I don’t think it’s going to be too hard to get a fab shop to make a couple plates that will welded to the bottom bar of the subframe. I created another thread about this also.

 

[Merrill]

Yes, that bracing is there if a loader is installed. My early 4110 (#0043) came with a factory installed loader new but did not have those braces - Mahindra gave me a set to install myself after I repaired the near-catastrophy as shown by the OP. The braces may or may not have kept the bolts from loosening, will never know in my case, but that was poor assembly not securing those bolts with no external access.

Hello sir. You were most helpful last year when I shared my broken 4110 with you on TractorByNet.

Let me update you my current situation. I ordered the front transmission housing, waited 10 months to arrive (not happy!), and started rebuilding the tractor. I replaced the input shaft with other smaller pieces and also replaced the clutch, pilot bearing, release bearing and pressure plate. It has taken me a couple of months to rebuild until today. When I cranked it today, I found that the clutch would not release, no matter how much I adjusted it. What could be causing this? How do I check this out? Thank you in advance!