Everlast your personal experience

[ericher69]

Looking at a plasma

Was pricing Hypertherm but way too $$$$$!

I'd like your personal experience with everlast products

Thanks

 

[k0ua]

Excellent so far (about a year and a half) Don't have a plasma, wish I did, I just have a PA160 welder I use for stick and TIG. Meets all my expectations.

James K0UA

 

[gwdixon]

I have a Power Plasma 70.
Good:
>easily cuts to its rating
>consumables reasonable
>good customer support
>has been reliable

Not so good:
>Several QA air lines leaked - replaced them with compression fittings and truck brake air line (works fine now)
>damage in shipping that was not immediately discovered (cost me to replace facing)
>HF points needed adjusting
>screws strip out of case easily
>bracket for air water trap did not fit.

These issues were all resolved either by Everlast or "creative" modifications. All in all it is a good buy. But I don't work welding professionally. Just welding and fabbing on farm equipment.

The Everlast unit is not a Hypertherm. To sell for that much less corners will be cut. Just be aware of it when buying. You are not going to get a Porsche on a Yugo budget.

 

[wirenut]

I too have the Power Plasma 70, that is working fine. Although it was a painful experience getting here. It took me several weeks and 4 PP 60 machines. I have to say, they did up hold their warranty. After 4 Power Plasma 60's failing with less than 1 hour of use, they "upgraded" me to the 70 series. Frustrating experience, but it worked out. The only reason I kept trying to work with them is, for the price you can't get a more capable machine.

 

[ericher69]

Have read many forums related to shipping damage on these Everlast units

Was looking at Hypertherm but dont know if I want to spend that much $ on a machine that I may not use that often

 

[Shield Arc]

Have read many forums related to shipping damage on these Everlast units

Happens to the best of them. UPS, FED-EX, and USPS all can break a cannon ball. My new Lincoln V350-Pro was truck shipped, spool gun didn't work upon arrival. Didn't know if there was a problem with the spool gun or the power source its self. Had to take everything to the repair center. One wire inside the power source was not connecting. Was this an error in Cleveland or by the shippers? I vote for the shippers!

 

[yomax4]

Have read many forums related to shipping damage on these Everlast units

Was looking at Hypertherm but dont know if I want to spend that much $ on a machine that I may not use that often

Also Look Thermal Dynamics or Good Used machines.I see quality units for $400.00 all the time..If you have a Northern Tool in your area, They have had good luck with the Plasma that they sell. I used one and it was pretty good but $700.00

 

[Haywire]

I have their PP50 plasma and PA200 stick machine. I am totally satisfied with both and the service I have received. I plan on buying one of their MTS200S machines as soon as money allows.

Ian

 

[jake98]

My two Everlasts, PP70 and 200DX Tig, both work perfectly. :thumbsup:

 

[crazyal]

I have a PP60 and have had no problems with it. Like others I made some minor improvements. One thing I was told was not to put too much air pressure into it so I added an external air regulator to the water separator on the back of the unit. I also store it inside the house during the winter so it doesn't see the repeated cold then warm cycles during the winter that tends to cause moisture problems.

I'm sure there are better units on the market but I just don't need a plasma cutter so badly that I'm willing to spend more than twice what I did. Honestly if I had to do it over again I would buy the same plasma cutter or maybe the PP70.

I did look at used but everything I found was used pretty hard by a welding shop. Maybe it's just cosmetic but I have seen how some company owned equipment is treated and decided not to go that route.

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

And we have made some improvements along the way, just as ANY company does, even though the outside looks the same. We increased the amperage capacity of the IGBT modules in the PP60 in the module design after the issue wirenut experienced. Earlier models did not use IGBT modules, but rather individually soldered IGBT's. The 70 had heavier modules which could stand much more abuse. Really, they are lighter in weight now than ever, as we have been streamlining the internals but using heavier modules. Most of our circuitry has been evolving to 100% plug and play components to allow a true modular design and making long life service simple and cheap for the future

 

[ericher69]

And we have made some improvements along the way, just as ANY company does, even though the outside looks the same. We increased the amperage capacity of the IGBT modules in the PP60 in the module design after the issue wirenut experienced. Earlier models did not use IGBT modules, but rather individually soldered IGBT's. The 70 had heavier modules which could stand much more abuse. Really, they are lighter in weight now than ever, as we have been streamlining the internals but using heavier modules. Most of our circuitry has been evolving to 100% plug and play components to allow a true modular design and making long life service simple and cheap for the future

Mark;

Why is your warranty 5yrs/USA and 3yrs/Canada???

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

It's a different market, distribution and cost structure. They have their own independent marketing plan. They also offer different products than we do, though the bulk of them are shared. Australia is different as well, with several different products even from what we have...and they don't have some of what we have.

As fas as the warranty: A warranty is not much more than a marketing tool, when you boil it down to the very basics...though it serves the customer a very practical purpose. At its heart, warranties are offered as a marketing point in any sales plan for the company. Calculated costs to support the warranty are built into the price, and hopefully the price point at which everything combines into the final package is appealing to the customer. Certainly much of the services people expect from any company are built into the price of the product, so is the warranty.

 

[ericher69]

Just seems we always get F#*ked in Canada

Higher prices, less warranty etc etc

 

[ericher69]

Mostly interested in stand alone plasma PP60
Or powerpro 256

Any bad experiences??

Thanks

 

[Sublifer]

Just seems we always get F#*ked in Canada

Higher prices, less warranty etc etc

Isn't that part of your healthcare plan? :laughing: Take it in the rear once a day? :ashamed: Then call the "doctor" in the morning... Haha, just kidding! Some of my grandparents were Canadian.

 

[ericher69]

Isn't that part of your healthcare plan? :laughing: Take it in the rear once a day? :ashamed: Then call the "doctor" in the morning... Haha, just kidding! Some of my grandparents were Canadian.

Part of it! The working stiffs need to pay for all the lazy, disabled, stupid, lazy (oh covered that already) idiots that leech the life out of our great Nation!

But I digress...

 

[eastexan]

Actually, we could use a good nationwide healthcare plan, here.
But that's another subject and not about tractors.

 

[hodge]

Mark/Everlast, I grew up learning this lesson- make sure you call, and keep the customer's house clean. Point being- although I didn't buy an Everlast (not because of fault of Everlast, just found a Miller plasma cutter locally), I did start to get discouraged when it took a while to hear back from you. I posted a PM, and sent an email. Prompt returns of calls/emails go a long way in business.
That being said, I would have purchased an Everlast PP50 or 60, if I hadn't found the Miller. Everlast sure seems to be a good value.

 

[ericher69]

Mark/Everlast, I grew up learning this lesson- make sure you call, and keep the customer's house clean. Point being- although I didn't buy an Everlast (not because of fault of Everlast, just found a Miller plasma cutter locally), I did start to get discouraged when it took a while to hear back from you. I posted a PM, and sent an email. Prompt returns of calls/emails go a long way in business.
That being said, I would have purchased an Everlast PP50 or 60, if I hadn't found the Miller. Everlast sure seems to be a good value.

So Hypertherm is the accepted standard (I think) in the industry/the guys to catch so to speak...

Having said that I too believe that Everlast is a good value as you can pick up an equally rated or above PP60 for 1/2 the price of the Hypertherm

I have read that consumables life is extended with Hypertherm and significantly shortened with Everlast (as much as 4:1) ratio

I am a home hobbiest that will be looking to do occasional cuts on 1/2"-3/4" mostly to build attachments for the b2920

Will the PP60 do the job and be reliable or should I just bite the bullet and get the Hypertherm