Exporting new tractor to Europe

[EuroYanmar]

Good morning,

I was wondering if it is allowed in US to export a new tractor. (I have heard that exporting new cars is forbidden in Canada).
Have the US dealers a special agreement with the mother factory forbidding to sell a new tractor to anyone planning to export the machine ?

If some members have any idea about this I would appreciate their comments;

Thank you,

Phil

 

[Tractorable]

There’s no law in the US dictating that you can’t ship a tractor overseas. The only issue I foresee would be the laws in the destination country to tax it and regulate its emissions. Research the cost of shipping, import taxes, and environmental regulations at the destination country to see if it’s worthwhile shipping it overseas or just buying locally.

 

[TractorGuy]

I'm curious, where on Earth would you export a new tractor from the US that would make it cost effective?

 

[EuroYanmar]

Thanks for your answer Tractorable.

I have analysed all these points of course.
The result is it is far away better to buy in US because in EEC the tractors are much more expensive than in US.
More than this ,except the yanmar models (YT 235 347 and 359) which are the same, the other tractors sold here are under equipped (oldies like TYM T503 , no Kubota Grand L series, no LS XR with ROPS etc....).
Of course one have to pay EEC import taxes 10 % and local taxes (TVA) 20 %. Even with these 30 % more, the deal would be great.
One (huge) drawback has to be mentionned : the warranty is no longer valid outside US.....
Anyway, thanks for your answer,

Phil

 

[EuroYanmar]

Hi JD855guy,

The answer is EEC.
Except Yanmar tractors, no equivalent to US quality here.
Prices higher and one have to consider the currency between dollar and euro.
Except the lost of warranty the deal may be great.

Phil

 

[Tractorable]

I feel for you with all those European high taxes and regulations. Are you considering an open or cab tractor? If a cab have you determined if a YT347/359 will fit inside a standard shipping container?

Go for a YT347/359, great tractors with the iHMT transmission and deluxe features.

 

[EuroYanmar]

I feel for you with all those European high taxes and regulations. Are you considering an open or cab tractor? If a cab have you determined if a YT347/359 will fit inside a standard shipping container?

Go for a YT347/359, great tractors with the iHMT transmission and deluxe features.

Yes we live here in "The tax wonderland"; Could you imagine that in year 2019 the cost here for a liter of fuel will be 2.28 $ making the gallon at 8.62 $......(justification : environemental purposes).

About the tractors The yanmar models could be really interresting as we have exactly the same models here. Easier to register.

Phil

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

any new tractor brand would have export requirements forbidding dealers from selling overseas.

now for used, its not an issue.

 

[kenmac]

Yes we live here in "The tax wonderland"; Could you imagine that in year 2019 the cost here for a liter of fuel will be 2.28 $ making the gallon at 8.62 $......(justification : environemental purposes).

About the tractors The yanmar models could be really interresting as we have exactly the same models here. Easier to register.

Phil

you are taxed so much so you can have all that ''FREE'' healthcare and other ''FREE'' programs.

having said that, Why not just have someone ship you a good used tractor. For some reason, Many here trade tractors every few yrs.
You can get a used tractor here with very few hrs on it

 

[TheMan419]

any new tractor brand would have export requirements forbidding dealers from selling overseas.

now for used, its not an issue.

Yeah but once I buy it you can't stop me. I understand you could not ship it directly to the OP but if he had someone come pick it up, you have no idea where it is going after that....

 

[fried1765]

Yeah but once I buy it you can't stop me. I understand you could not ship it directly to the OP but if he had someone come pick it up, you have no idea where it is going after that....

Exactly correct!

 

[iseki]

And for what European country do you want to take the tractor?

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

Exactly correct!

Yea, go for it.

 

[Tractorable]

If the tractor was financed then I’m sure the bank would have a vested interest in keeping it in-country. If it’s paid in full then you could ship it to Timbuktu if you wanted to.

 

[Agvg]

And you must have it CE approved, just a formality if the manufacturer is interested but that's not always so. Know people that has got they're hands on Cat and JD equipment really cheap, but none of the two manufacturers wanted to provide the papers when the serial number indicated that it was a US model.

 

[Agvg]

But CE doesn't matter if it just for your own private use, but be careful if you let other use it, here in Norway a lot of cheap excavators from Japan is sold, but you can't use it commercial.

For US cars there are exceptions so that's no problem.

 

[radios1]

There痴 no law in the US dictating that you can稚 ship a tractor overseas. The only issue I foresee would be the laws in the destination country to tax it and regulate its emissions. Research the cost of shipping, import taxes, and environmental regulations at the destination country to see if it痴 worthwhile shipping it overseas or just buying locally.

I believe there ARE Countries that you cannot Legally ship to. Can I Ship It? What You Can’t Ship Internationally . this should fall under "self propelled vehicles" and also, there are at least 6 Countries that you cannot ship ANYTHING to.. the U.S. don't want anything shipped to a banned Country!..

 

[MHarryE]

Some thoughts.
Tractors are generally designed to meet the EU safety standards. Emissions label is important. Examination at POE to determine whether the engine meets the applicable emissions standards for the year of manufacture.
I've purchased 2 cars that have been delivered to me in Europe. I needed to drive for a certain period of time (not very long) so they could be brought into the USA without import duty saving me 7% (yes, I know they say there is no duty on European cars coming into America but that is fake news). Was in Europe on business, taking delivery there saved my company rental car cost both times. However the cars were built to USA safety standards and could only be driven in Europe 30 days.
When the Euro was introduced as currency the exchange was 0.85 USD per EUR. Now it is about 1.15 USD per EUR. In the 1990s a large number of international companies purchased machinery in Europe and shipped it to the USA pocketing the savings.
Many John Deere, AGCO (Massey-Ferguson), CNH, and Kubota M7 tractors are built in Europe and exported to North America. Those manufacturers would not be doing that if they could build for less in North America.
Until the new European emissions standards come into effect there should be no problem. Probably wouldn't hurt to use the tractor before transit. Shipping in a container is much less expensive than roll on roll off. Make sure it meets all European standards including spectator noise (we always had European sound kits because it costs money to meet the level).
We could never understand why items like cars cost more from Europe while in my industry (construction equipment) we could build the exact same machine for significantly less in Europe than we could in North America. We're not talking small numbers either. 20 years ago the differential was 30%. For one thing US labor was much more expensive than European labor. The cost of medical benefits in the USA added to higher pay drove up labor cost. Yes, that government medical coverage in Europe comes at a cost but that cost is significantly lower than the medical benefits paid by top tier US companies.

 

[EuroYanmar]

any new tractor brand would have export requirements forbidding dealers from selling overseas.

now for used, its not an issue.

That's what I thought !

By the way, if you are short of new ideas :
we are waiting for a thursday video about the grand L cab 3560...
Something like : "Grand L3560 for what purposes ?"
or "Grand L3560 a small tractor for big jobs ?"

Phil

 

[Agvg]

Any thoughts about the CE problems?