Farm Fuel Tank Ideas

[Duffster]

:laughing:

Sorry LB I shouldn't do that.

IIRC Hauling any placarded amount of Hazmat automatically make you a CMV.

Otherwise a tanker endorsement isn't needed unless you need a CDL anyway.

 

[firefighter9208]

I know it's been a while, but I finally got around to taking pictures. I went to a local "Big Truck" junkyard and picked up a 150 gallon saddle tank off an 18 wheeler for $100.00. I ordered a Fil-Rite 13GPM pump, filter, and meter for another $450.00.

The tank had a screw on lid that was 4" in diameter. I drilled a 2" hole in the lid and mounted a floor flange with 2" pipe threads. This is where I mounted my pump. I then mounted another 2" floor flange with pipe threads over an existing 1" hole in the tank. I put a vented fill cap on that opening. I use this opening for filling the tank.

I mounted the tank (it's 50" long) on a pallet and set it in the back of my truck with my tractor and pallet forks. . I drove 12 miles to the local off-road pump and filled it up. I've already used 70 of the 150 gallons prepping ground for crops.

BTW: I see single axle trailers hauling 150-300 gallon tanks all the time with off road diesel in them.

Hope yall like!!!!

Chris

 

[FlaDon]

I know it's been a while, but I finally got around to taking pictures. I went to a local "Big Truck" junkyard and picked up a 150 gallon saddle tank off an 18 wheeler for $100.00. I ordered a Fil-Rite 13GPM pump, filter, and meter for another $450.00.

The tank had a screw on lid that was 4" in diameter. I drilled a 2" hole in the lid and mounted a floor flange with 2" pipe threads. This is where I mounted my pump. I then mounted another 2" floor flange with pipe threads over an existing 1" hole in the tank. I put a vented fill cap on that opening. I use this opening for filling the tank.

I mounted the tank (it's 50" long) on a pallet and set it in the back of my truck with my tractor and pallet forks. . I drove 12 miles to the local off-road pump and filled it up. I've already used 70 of the 150 gallons prepping ground for crops.

BTW: I see single axle trailers hauling 150-300 gallon tanks all the time with off road diesel in them.

Hope yall like!!!!

Chris

The deciding factor is, is it a portable tank or a fixed tank for the N endorsement. A fixed 120 gallon tank on a trailer requires a CDL with tanker endorsement if a Class A or B would be required for the vehicle/combo. At 1001 gallons a portable tank strapped to the same vehicle also requires the N endorsement. Makes no difference what is in the tank as far as the N endorsement. The H endorsement relies on quantity/packaging/material for when required.

Diesel fuel is covered as not requiring placarding if in under 119 gallon tanks. Above 133 gallons ( 1000 lbs @ 7.5 lbs/gal ) no matter what type tank (fixed or portable ) requires placarding, CDL, and Hazmat endorsement.
http://telsafe.org/Documents/NTSPGas-DieselFuelTransportation.pdf

 

[firefighter9208]

I have a CDL. I'm not real worried about the DOT. Thanks though.....

So your telling me that the driver of the truck (the tank came off of) had to have a haz mat and tanker endorsement. The truck had two of these tanks mounted on it. 160 gallon capacity, but with 150 gallon fill capacity. So he was carrying 300 gallons of fuel. BTW these tanks are DOT approved. Stamped on the tag on the tank.

I am probably going to go back and buy another one to use for used oil and hydraulic fluid storage. That way when it gets full I can load it with the load and take it to a buddy of mine who uses a waste oil heater. He can pump the oil out into his larger storage tank. No more wrestling with 30 and 55 gallon drums.


One reason I hadn't posted this pictues was that I knew I would have everybody telling me how illegal I was. Well..... when the DOT man tells me I'm illegal I'll worry about it... :thumbsup:


Chris

 

[Duffster]

I have a CDL. I'm not real worried about the DOT. Thanks though.....

So your telling me that the driver of the truck (the tank came off of) had to have a haz mat and tanker endorsement. The truck had two of these tanks mounted on it. 160 gallon capacity, but with 150 gallon fill capacity. So he was carrying 300 gallons of fuel. BTW these tanks are DOT approved. Stamped on the tag on the tank.

I am probably going to go back and buy another one to use for used oil and hydraulic fluid storage. That way when it gets full I can load it with the load and take it to a buddy of mine who uses a waste oil heater. He can pump the oil out into his larger storage tank. No more wrestling with 30 and 55 gallon drums.


One reason I hadn't posted this pictues was that I knew I would have everybody telling me how illegal I was. Well..... when the DOT man tells me I'm illegal I'll worry about it... :thumbsup:


Chris

When those tanks where mounted to the truck they where not cargo so no special license needed.

I won't scold you, you are a big boy and can make your own decisions but i will ask you this, would you operate your passenger car without a valid license or insurance?

 

[FlaDon]

I have a CDL. I'm not real worried about the DOT. Thanks though.....

So your telling me that the driver of the truck (the tank came off of) had to have a haz mat and tanker endorsement. The truck had two of these tanks mounted on it. 160 gallon capacity, but with 150 gallon fill capacity. So he was carrying 300 gallons of fuel. BTW these tanks are DOT approved. Stamped on the tag on the tank.

I am probably going to go back and buy another one to use for used oil and hydraulic fluid storage. That way when it gets full I can load it with the load and take it to a buddy of mine who uses a waste oil heater. He can pump the oil out into his larger storage tank. No more wrestling with 30 and 55 gallon drums.


One reason I hadn't posted this pictues was that I knew I would have everybody telling me how illegal I was. Well..... when the DOT man tells me I'm illegal I'll worry about it... :thumbsup:


Chris

That truck is not "transporting" fuel. It is for operation of the vehicle itself. Same thing applies to gasoline tanks. Gasoline has the 8 gallon portable limit. 6+ is the largest I can ever remember seeing.

 

[Usta]

I'm wanting to add a 100-150 gallon on farm tank. I've looked all over for a used tank. My grandfather has a 150 gallon tank, but I'm having problems finding one used that size. Everything I'm finding is 300-500 gallons. We knocked around the idea of a 55 gallon drum, but could only get 3-4 fills of our tractor tanks before having to take it to refill.

I can load the 150 gallon tank on my trailer and take it to be filled. That's what I do with my granddads 150 gallon tank.

My neighbor and I are going to go together and get the tank, and electric pump with meter and filter. We are then going to 1/2 the first fill ($) and pay as we use to refill. Log the # of gallons we use on each fill-up of our tractors and then "pay the pot" to refill the storage tank.

I used 100 gallons last year and he uses about the same or a little more. We don't want a 300 gallon tank, because of condensation in an unfull tank and the fuel going bad.

I've called everywhere to find a tank. One guy told me to call a "big truck" salvage yard. So I did. I can buy a 150 gallon saddle tank (off an 18 wheeler) for $100 - $200 . Depends on if I get steel or alum. I'll go with steel.

Question is. Anyone ever used one of these???

Maybe bigger than what you are looking for but this is what I have.

Around here, 275 gallon tanks used in excellent condition are rather cheap. Anywhere from free to $75.

I have two 275 gallon tanks in the garage. Had one for the oil furnace and when I found another almost new 275 for free, I hooked them both up to the furnace. (Storing over 500 gallons is handy) Since I park the Kubota beside them, I put on a electric pump with 24 feet of hose. Sure is nice quick fueling but I do not really need a 13 GPM pump to fill the tractors 6 gallon fuel tank. Notice I am not filtering the fuel. The furnace draws from the bottom of the tank and the fuel pump draws from 2 inches above the bottom. The furnace will alert me of any water in the tank long before the tractor will.
And yes, I use #2 heating oil in my tractor. Always have, always will.

Click on attached thumbnail to enlarge.

 

[LRTX1]

For 550 bones, split 2 ways I assume, I would have bought 2 truck mounted transfer tanks. Stays in your truck all the time is the draw back. The plus is you have yours and he would have his, no need for all the figuring on who used what and who owes the pot.

BTW many of neighborly friends have been lost over dealings like you speak of. Good luck with everything.

 

[LBrown59]

I am more primitive. I strap my 55 gal. drum to a handtruck,
1*either roll it out of my truck or lift it with my FEL. I can easily manage a full drum. Sure beats those new, improved worthless 5 gal containers.

1*I don't have to do it like that because my system is self unloading.

Legality for transport in the USA:
2*it will be easy to handle via a set of pallet forks.

2*Use the pump not the forks.

3*at 120 gallons of hazardous liquid capacity (such as a tank other than that of your vehicle fuel tank) you do need to have a taker endorsement.
Aaron Z

3* This is for those in the business of hauling such liquids commericaly but does not apply to individuals correct.

I went to a local "Big Truck" junkyard and picked up a 150 gallon saddle tank off an 18 wheeler for $100.00. I ordered a Fil-Rite 13GPM pump, filter, and meter for another $450.00.

The tank had a screw on lid that was 4" in diameter. I drilled a 2" hole in the lid and mounted a floor flange with 2" pipe threads. This is where I mounted my pump. I then mounted another 2" floor flange with pipe threads over an existing 1" hole in the tank. I put a vented fill cap on that opening. I use this opening for filling the tank.
Hope yall like!!!!Chris

Congradulations on getting er done.

 

[Duffster]

3* This is for those in the business of hauling such liquids commericaly but does not apply to individuals correct.

If you are transporting 120+ gallons of fuel you are commercial.