Farmi winch

[chuck172]

I might have a lead on a used farmi JL351P logging wing. Built in 2007. I'm worried it's on the small side. I'm really looking for the 501.
I have a kioti dk40.
Is the 351 a decent size winch? If I buy it, I might want to resell for the bigger one. What would be a good price for it?

 

[CalG]

Around here (Vt NH Mass etc) A GOOD used winch is being offered for about 85% of new.

They sell quickly, but one never really knows what the final price might have been.

The "little Farmi" would be just the size for my needs..... ;-)

 

[Agvg]

But if you are in need of the full 5000kg the 501 pulls then you might have a to small tractor to handle it, 351 pulls 3500kg and I dont think its to small for general use, how large trees are you pulling?
Any experience with logging winches?
Check very carefully the ground clearance on larger winches, small tractors have small wheels and dosent lift high enough to give the height to the winch and its not particularly fun to get stuck on the winch blade at full lift height.... I have tried it.

 

[Gordon Gould]

Your tractor is 40 hp and weighs less than 4000 lbs so to me the Farmi JL351P is the perfect sized winch for it. Like Avgv says, if you need to pull 10K plus pounds how are you going to keep your tractor anchored?? Also as he mentioned the frame size mismatch is a problem. If you need to pull those kinds of loads with a light tractor you need to use a snatch block. A big winch usually won't help.

If you are getting a deal on the winch then you should be able to turn it over easily if you don't like it

 

[Silvic]

Your tractor is 40 hp and weighs less than 4000 lbs so to me the Farmi JL351P is the perfect sized winch for it.

Not familiar with your tractor and its size but if as Gordon stated it is 40 hp and less than 4000# then I believe the JL351P would be perfect for you.

I have the 501 and really like it but it is a good size unit. It is designed for both cat 2 as well as large cat 1 tractors. I have one on a JD 4720 and I believe that on a smaller tractor that it might be too much. I personally would not want it on a smaller tractor.

If Gordon is correct then your tractor is probably a bit small for a 501 but perfect for a 351 (in my opinion and experience)

 

[chuck172]

The winch for sale is now what I believe to be a JL351P, for a skid steer. It has hydraulic lines. Darn!
But getting back to sizing a logging winch for my tractor:
The tractor has loaded Ag. tires 13.6-24, a loader, 2,500 lb. lift (3pt.), 41HP. It totals out at about 6,000 lbs.
I don't want to look back and wish I got the next size up winch, but I don't want a too big logging winch either.
If I buy new, should I go for the 351 or the 501?

 

[Gordon Gould]

The loader and loaded tires get your weight up by 2K and that is good. But your tractor at 41 hp is still near the minimum recommended for the 501. I do not believe you will be able to use all it's muscle and the larger winch frame will have a lot more leverage and put more stress on your smallish 3pth and tractor. Your tractor sits right in the middle of the 351 recommendation and the 351 is physically sized for your tractor. So that is the one I would choose. But this is just me thinking not you. It is hard for me to believe that you can do significantly more with the 501 than you can with the 351. I think you will be amazed at what you can pull with the 351. Once you winch the log/tree in you still need to be able to pick it up and have enough traction to skid it up to the landing.

My tractor weighs 5000 lbs and my winch pulls 6400 lbs. That is more than enough for my tractor to handle. My biggest limitation is traction skidding out a hitch that I can winch in w/o trouble even though I run loaded tires and chains. But I have rough ground, hills, and mud. For me the diff lock and steering brakes are necessities.

Good luck and work safe with what ever you get !!

gg

 

[Deerherd]

The winch for sale is now what I believe to be a JL351P, for a skid steer. It has hydraulic lines. Darn!
But getting back to sizing a logging winch for my tractor:
The tractor has loaded Ag. tires 13.6-24, a loader, 2,500 lb. lift (3pt.), 41HP. It totals out at about 6,000 lbs.
I don't want to look back and wish I got the next size up winch, but I don't want a too big logging winch either.
If I buy new, should I go for the 351 or the 501?

If you are considering buying new, look at the Wallenstein Bush Pilot series line also, they have a few nice features you may like (trailer hitch, free choker chains, etc) and you can save a little cash.

As far as size, if you KNEW you were getting a larger tractor than maybe spring for the larger size but if not a 351 sized unit like the others said sounds great.

Whatever you get you will wonder how you did without a winch before and will become one of your favorite attachments. Like Gordon said just be safe and careful! I have a Wallenstein FX140 and I really like it.

 

[chuck172]

I like the idea of considering wallenstein. I contacted their sales rep, and he steered me to the fx85. thanks

 

[Agvg]

Even a 3000kg winch will jerk a small tractor around, I have a Ursus that is around 2600kg an with my Sandvik 3081 and that 3000kg winch will easily drag it back an if theirs no soft ground it will drag it as nothing.
I will give you some advises, never ever drag with an angel, if you have no choice otherwise watch the tractor, it will put it on the side in an second, watch the winch not the loggs when pulling, the loggs are on its way as long as the winch pulls. If you have a manuell control with a rope its a good idea to have it long so you are out of the danger zone near the winch.
Branches on logs or loose branches following the log are dangerous, I have once been pushed under my winch when a branch came under the snow sticking a meter or two ahead of the log and I was an idiot standing between the winch and the loggs. If you are going up steep hills its better to winch the loggs up step by step than skidding it.