FEL Cylinder Leaking

   / FEL Cylinder Leaking #21  
I had not heard of heating them, that would cause them to expand more, might work, never tried it. I put them on like they came using plastic guides. Good luck with your rebuild.
 
   / FEL Cylinder Leaking #22  
I heated the seals in a pan of hydraulic fluid to 160 degrees. The seals were soft and pliable and slipped into position. My question is are they seated properly? The one edge of the seal is tilted. Is this normal or do I need to jockey the seal around so the edge is more flush. See the attached pictures.....

That looks bad. It will not work. 160 degrees was not too hot at all. It looks like the inner lip isn't in far enough. Maybe take a pick or a very small screwdriver and see if you can roll the inner lip? The seals should look installed almost the exact same as they do not installed. Do you have spares? On that piston, they really don't need to be heated. You could snap them on with your palm. They are pointed the proper direction. Are you sure they are the correct size?
Andy
 
   / FEL Cylinder Leaking #23  
That looks bad. Andy

Andy,

Thanks!!!! for checking in......... I jockeyed the seals around and got the bottom of the 'U' to seat up against the white teflon washer. See the attached picture. I used a rounded edge tool so hopefully I did not nick the seals. I did not order any extra seals but I will know to play it safe next time and order a couple extra.

Don
 

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   / FEL Cylinder Leaking #24  
The first pictures I posted in this thread showed both rods. Three out of four seals were splooged out of place and one seal looked OK. There's a perfectly good explanation why the one seal looked good. Unfortunately, I don't have a cut and dry reason why the other three splooged out. The first two pictures are duplicates of the ones I first posted. The third picture shows a close up of the seal that did not splooge out. It looks to me like it was mounted backwards.

Don
 

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   / FEL Cylinder Leaking #25  
It would be a good idea to put Locktite on the threads when you put the nut on.
 
   / FEL Cylinder Leaking #26  
OK, here's all 4 seals mounted. One trick I learned is to slide the white telfon washer (it's has a slit in it) up and out of the way before mounting the seals. With the telfon washer out of the way it created enough clearance for the seals to slip right into place the proper way, then slide the teflon washer back in place. The ram that's mounted on the rod are the original seals that I had to jockey around to re-seat them properly.

Don
 

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   / FEL Cylinder Leaking #28  
Don,

I would ask Wayne what color Locktite to use.
 
   / FEL Cylinder Leaking #29  
Yeah, that one seal is backwards. But, there are applications where that would be an advantage. I have seen plenty of cylinders that power one way and the other way has very little load so all the seals point one way.
JJ gives good advice, clean the rod threads and nut real good with brakleen then use red loctite. That's what I do anyway.
The seals look much better now. You should be okay. Some oil on the seals and a little patience during assembly and you should have a pair of good cylinders there. Take your time assembling these. Wiggle the rod around to get the seals past the threads of the cylinder housing. If you try to force it, you will tear up the new seals. Be gentle, but don't be afraid to push a little. It takes a feel for it, but you will get it.
I notice no new wear band? Not the end of the world, but next time replace it. Another thing I like to do when assembling is to stagger all the seams, like doing rings on a piston for an engine. Look at your picture and you will see what I mean. You could leave it like it is and probably never notice a difference but I get silly like that sometimes. Just a habit I guess.
Good luck, Andy
 
   / FEL Cylinder Leaking #30  
I notice no new wear band? Not the end of the world, but next time replace it. Good luck, Andy

Andy, could you steer me in the right direction on sizing the wear bands? I looked at one of the wear bands but did not fully remove it off the piston. I didn't see any size marking from what I could see.

Don
 

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