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wroughtn_harv
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I told the customer that for that price he got a plain pipe gate. The other day he meekly asked if I could maybe put a dubya in it.
I asked him what kind of a dubya did he want.
He explained that all he wanted was one of those square piece ones made out of the pipe in the gate, you know the kind everyone does.
I busted out laughing. I told him not to worry. I'd already planned on a dubya in his gate. I promised him he'd like it.
There's within a couple of inches or so a hundred and twenty five feet of two inch (2 3/8") schedule forty pipe in this gate at three point six four pounds per foot if I recall correctly. It's heavy enough to make the grunt factor do a double take.
The bends I did with my Hossfield. I just bent some pieces. And I went to a little extra trouble to make none of the pieces exactly alike. I don't work that way. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
I used a bud's shop floor to weld it up. His man is one of those real quiet deadly types. He'll sneak up an idea on you without saying squat that will put you on your heels if not flat on your back. He was looking at those short pieces of bent pipe, them wheels a gnashing almost audible like.
I explained what I wanted and then had more fun than if I'd laid it out myself watching him out of the corner of my eye while I welded up the rest of it.
I asked him what kind of a dubya did he want.
He explained that all he wanted was one of those square piece ones made out of the pipe in the gate, you know the kind everyone does.
I busted out laughing. I told him not to worry. I'd already planned on a dubya in his gate. I promised him he'd like it.
There's within a couple of inches or so a hundred and twenty five feet of two inch (2 3/8") schedule forty pipe in this gate at three point six four pounds per foot if I recall correctly. It's heavy enough to make the grunt factor do a double take.
The bends I did with my Hossfield. I just bent some pieces. And I went to a little extra trouble to make none of the pieces exactly alike. I don't work that way. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
I used a bud's shop floor to weld it up. His man is one of those real quiet deadly types. He'll sneak up an idea on you without saying squat that will put you on your heels if not flat on your back. He was looking at those short pieces of bent pipe, them wheels a gnashing almost audible like.
I explained what I wanted and then had more fun than if I'd laid it out myself watching him out of the corner of my eye while I welded up the rest of it.
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If you look at the hinge post you'll see that I use the gate upright as part of the hinge system. That's point one five four wall galvanized two inch pipe. The pipe is hot dip galvanized. That means it's galvanized inside too. That's a good thing.
Now the pipe has about a two point next to nothing I.D. One of the problems with hinges is if they're not kept lubed and active and they're the same metal they freeze up. Especially if they're mild steel. Rust can be the tie that binds. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
The pin for that hinge is two inch stainless bar. It's not cheap, twenty two dollars a foot for scrap price if'n you're buying. Of course this gate has less than a foot of pin in it. Actually there's a four inch piece at each end. That's enough to tie into the strength of the horizontal rail which is what I think is important. The stainless and the galvanized combination should never bind. They'll also last past my lifetime. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Now the pipe has about a two point next to nothing I.D. One of the problems with hinges is if they're not kept lubed and active and they're the same metal they freeze up. Especially if they're mild steel. Rust can be the tie that binds. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
The pin for that hinge is two inch stainless bar. It's not cheap, twenty two dollars a foot for scrap price if'n you're buying. Of course this gate has less than a foot of pin in it. Actually there's a four inch piece at each end. That's enough to tie into the strength of the horizontal rail which is what I think is important. The stainless and the galvanized combination should never bind. They'll also last past my lifetime. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
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Looking east.
This is five foot non climb horse wire.
I use steel fence ties. Aluminum is for sissies. It doesn't work worth a flip besides getting a job done half way fast like.
When I'm done each fence post will have four ties. There will be five ties between posts on the top rail. Each tie will be tight.
Lately there's come out these twist ties. A couple of problems with those. First the ends are a potential hazard to livestock. Secondly and just as important, they don't secure the wire the way a fenceman doing a steel tie does.
When a tie is put on properly the ends do not present a hazard. And it works with the post and the fabric to get the best out of each.
I'll climb off of my soapbox.
I like my work. I hate to see the craftsmanship taken out of it.
This is five foot non climb horse wire.
I use steel fence ties. Aluminum is for sissies. It doesn't work worth a flip besides getting a job done half way fast like.
When I'm done each fence post will have four ties. There will be five ties between posts on the top rail. Each tie will be tight.
Lately there's come out these twist ties. A couple of problems with those. First the ends are a potential hazard to livestock. Secondly and just as important, they don't secure the wire the way a fenceman doing a steel tie does.
When a tie is put on properly the ends do not present a hazard. And it works with the post and the fabric to get the best out of each.
I'll climb off of my soapbox.
I like my work. I hate to see the craftsmanship taken out of it.
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W Harv,
I always admire your work!
But, I could not help but wonder why I had the feeling when looking at your pictures in this thread...a sort of a sad feeling that it is a shame that we sometimes need to put up fences among neighbors!
To keep the cows in...I understand that...
Somehow I ended up with the feeling that there were no cows to keep in on the land where this fence went up...
Still, I do admire your work and thank you for sharing with us!
I always admire your work!
But, I could not help but wonder why I had the feeling when looking at your pictures in this thread...a sort of a sad feeling that it is a shame that we sometimes need to put up fences among neighbors!
To keep the cows in...I understand that...
Somehow I ended up with the feeling that there were no cows to keep in on the land where this fence went up...
Still, I do admire your work and thank you for sharing with us!
wroughtn_harv
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Somehow I ended up with the feeling that there were no cows to keep in on the land where this fence went up...)</font>
This customer has been here for over twenty years. He loves his plants, fish, dog, especially, his wild flowers.
As you can see he's surrounded by subdivisions. Kids, dogs, and the inconsiderate parents in the subdivision have been a plague upon him.
More than once he's had to explain to a neighbor that just because he has a big yard it doesn't mean it's okay for them to dump their excess yard clippings, dog droppings, or just spare dirt on his yard.
More than once he's had folks just walk in and about his property doing a look see without invitation.
He wanted a fence that would improve the value of the property, be as unintrusive as possible, he does like to share the beauty of his wild flowers in the spring. And he wanted to not have to confront neighbors about either just turning their dogs loose to defecate on his property or even worse yet, walk their dogs to defecate on his property.
We put up fences to keep others out and ours in. He hasn't ever had a crime problem but he is tired of being bothered by rude people.
With two and a half acres in this prime location the person who buys the property at a later day is probably going to want it to have a horse etc. This style of fence increases the value of the property in that direction.
This customer has been here for over twenty years. He loves his plants, fish, dog, especially, his wild flowers.
As you can see he's surrounded by subdivisions. Kids, dogs, and the inconsiderate parents in the subdivision have been a plague upon him.
More than once he's had to explain to a neighbor that just because he has a big yard it doesn't mean it's okay for them to dump their excess yard clippings, dog droppings, or just spare dirt on his yard.
More than once he's had folks just walk in and about his property doing a look see without invitation.
He wanted a fence that would improve the value of the property, be as unintrusive as possible, he does like to share the beauty of his wild flowers in the spring. And he wanted to not have to confront neighbors about either just turning their dogs loose to defecate on his property or even worse yet, walk their dogs to defecate on his property.
We put up fences to keep others out and ours in. He hasn't ever had a crime problem but he is tired of being bothered by rude people.
With two and a half acres in this prime location the person who buys the property at a later day is probably going to want it to have a horse etc. This style of fence increases the value of the property in that direction.
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<font color="blue"> We put up fences to keep others out and ours in. He hasn't ever had a crime problem but he is tired of being bothered by rude people.</font>
Yes, I think that is what I was feeling...
Sure is a shame when your neighbors don't respect your privacy or your property... /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Yes, I think that is what I was feeling...
Sure is a shame when your neighbors don't respect your privacy or your property... /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
EddieWalker
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Harve,
The fence looks great!
I was wondering about the fence ties you used. They are so good I couldn't make them out in the picture. Did you use steel wire or some sort of strap.
I really like the finished look and want a tie that disapears once installed also.
Eddie
The fence looks great!
I was wondering about the fence ties you used. They are so good I couldn't make them out in the picture. Did you use steel wire or some sort of strap.
I really like the finished look and want a tie that disapears once installed also.
Eddie
wroughtn_harv
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The fence is just spot tied in right now. But I use steel prehooked on one end twelve and a half gauge ties. They're stiff and your teeth will hurt just out of sympathy for your poor arms, wrists, and hands after installing them, but, and this but is important, they'll hold tight and life forever.
Here's part of what we did today.
Here's part of what we did today.
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I stopped by my local rental store and rented a trenching attachment for a skid steer. Iris handled it like it wasn't nothing but a thing.
That darn gumbo is a bugger bear to do anything with but wallow and get it all over you. We did about four hundred feet of six inch trench eighteen inches deep.
That darn gumbo is a bugger bear to do anything with but wallow and get it all over you. We did about four hundred feet of six inch trench eighteen inches deep.
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That job is finished and I've still got to get the finished pictures with the lamp rock etc all in place. It was a great job and a ton of fun.
For some months now I've wanted to try a new product some friends and myself have developed for building a pipe fence.
Well, today's the day. Yesterday I set the last of the posts. We had a high of thirty three degrees with a nice north breeze whittling that old chill factor into the teens. I had some visitors but they didn't want to stand outside the truck and talk. Just don't understand'em at all. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
So wish me luck. It's going to be about ten degrees warmer today and I'm going to finally get to see if this concept is a Ford or a Hudson.
For some months now I've wanted to try a new product some friends and myself have developed for building a pipe fence.
Well, today's the day. Yesterday I set the last of the posts. We had a high of thirty three degrees with a nice north breeze whittling that old chill factor into the teens. I had some visitors but they didn't want to stand outside the truck and talk. Just don't understand'em at all. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
So wish me luck. It's going to be about ten degrees warmer today and I'm going to finally get to see if this concept is a Ford or a Hudson.
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The customer requested the flood lights so he'd know if the gate was operating. I thought it an unusual request but it turned out to be a very good idea.
He can now hit his remote and know if the gate is operating (lights are hooked to the motor cycle circuit) but it's another safety thing because the drive and surrounding area it lit up.
He can now hit his remote and know if the gate is operating (lights are hooked to the motor cycle circuit) but it's another safety thing because the drive and surrounding area it lit up.
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I hope the fence ties show up on this picture. One of the things folks don't consider when they use a fabric on frame fence is the importance of properly attaching the fabric to the frame. It isn't just about hanging there. It's about taking advantage of the strength of the frame.
