Fence Projects coming along

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rf33

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Well, it has been several months of working, and I am making a little progress on my fences. I have been unable to devote much time to it, but little by little I have been able to put in an hour or two here, etc. First is a picture of the fence I built for the dogs. It is an area about 100' by 160' and is fenced with 2 3/8" pipe posts and top rail, and then with 2" X 4" mesh wire horse panels. The panels are 5' high and are buried 6" into the ground to keep the dogs from digging out. This leaves the fence at around 4' 6". All in all, I am pretty happy with the way it turned out. Now all that remains on this fence is to paint it./w3tcompact/icons/sad.gif
 

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And here is a picture of the start of the arena fence. This one has the same posts and top rail as the dog fence, but instead of panels, this one has four 1 3/8" pipe rails which keep the horses in (I hope). The arena is about 120' by 300'. I am also working on the first pasture for the horses, and area about 350' by 400'. Plenty to keep me busy for quite a while. I really want to thank w_harv for all the insight and tips he gave me to make this project come together. p.s. w_harv, my welding with 5P+ is getting better every day.../w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
 

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Morning Ron,

It looks like you're having sum kind of fun./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

It looks really good.

I'm glad you like the 5P+. I use it for everything it seems these days. Yesterday I was welding up a pair of gates in the rain with it.

Everyone seems to think that getting bit is the bad thing about welding in the rain. But for me it's been the getting wet and trying to see what I'm doing with water on the lense. When it's all just wrong I'm looking through a kaleidoscope instead of a welding lense.

Don't dawdle on the paint. Remember what I showed you about how the rust will come off the post and attack whatever's attached to the post.
 
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Your next investment will be an electric fence. If your horses are like mine they will tip their head sideways and feed on the nice grass outside and a 1000# horse can move a lot of fence. 4WD too.
 
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Thanks w_harv. I have one more question for you though. A few of my posts have water in them, and I was wondering if you think I need to drill holes in them and heat them to drive the water out? I suppose that if they are sealed, they should not rust just because of the water (no oxygen getting in), but I wanted your opinion. Your help is greatly appreciated.
 
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Evening Ron,

If the posts are open at the top I wouldn't worry about it. Freezing will water will always take the path of least resistance. Surely straight up is easier than going through a quarter inch plus wall of steel like in your posts.

If the posts are closed, they filled up with water before you welded in the top pipe, the same principle holds. The space taken up by the expanding water while freezing is only going to create pressure in the air filled portion.

I wouldn't worry about it. More importantly I sure wouldn't drill holes in my posts. They're going to have a dull enough life without being intentionally bored./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

The next month or so is going to be a bear for time. But maybe the first Monday in December we'll come by for a visit and enjoy the World's largest Trade's Day too.
 
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Actually Harv I was more concerned with the water causing additional rusting than I was with freezing (I actually had not even thought about that problem/w3tcompact/icons/sad.gif). Sorry to hear about how busy you have been, but I guess in the current economic conditions, being busy with work is not an entirely bad thing. I hope you can find the time to get away and come over for the December Trades Day.
 
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Evening Ron,

Hmmmmmmmm, rusting, again I wouldn't worry about it. By the time your tubing, new high carbon drill stem, decides it's time to give in and rust the water will be gone./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

I would paint the outside asap though. That is important not only rust will attack the pipe but also everything you attach to it. The pipe will hold out for thirty years or more. The other stuff not so long.

I hope you're not like me. Painting is one of those chores I've found the perfect tool for, check book.

Seriously, for your pipe there are many options. One of course is the mitt. Another is the foam rollers. And another is the pipe rollers that consist of three little rollers in an arc top and bottom. If you have to paint the pipe and there's nothing welded to it like you have around the dog pen, the little roller is the ticket in my book. Mostly because you can clean it and reuse it. The mitt and the foam rollers are one shot items.

Even better is a HVLP sprayer. They lay down plenty of paint (you'll never find rust under a run). You aren't killing the environment like you can do with regular spray gun and compressor technology. And they are a lot easier than a brush when you're doing something like the dog pen.

Plus if you're so inclined you can find mama's good side because they do stuff like refinishing outdoor furniture better than just about anything else. Of course nothing beats the expertise you get and ease of use of the check book.
 
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I don’t want to kink things up here/w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif, but. The farm that I have now, has several steel pipe posts. Some of them have rusted through just above ground level and some have froze and busted in the same area. I am in a colder area than Harv, but not as cold of a area as you are. I know that when I put some more in, that I am going to cover the tops.
 
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Morning Jerry,

Ron lives about fifty miles from me. He will eventually have all the posts tops closed. Either with the top rail pipe or with welded on plugs for post caps.

The moisture that he's talking about is what's got in the posts between his setting them and when he's got around to welding in the top rail.

He purchased a couple of tractor trailer loads of new reject drill stem. Drill stem is schedule eighty high carbon steel tubing. The wall thickness is approaching a quarter of an inch. The stuff is impressive as can be.

I see fence posts and pickets damaged by freezing in my line of work. The biggest culprit causing it down here is the little pin hole that allows water in. But it isn't big enough to compensate for the expansion when it freezes. Since we don't get the weather you do up there we rarely see splitting as much as we see deformation. This is especially true with square tubing. When you see a square tubing post and it's egg shaped, that happened when the water inside it froze.

I always recommend post caps of some kind or something comparable like a welded in top rail. But I don't see where some moisture in pipe of the grade and condition Ron has having a problem after he's welded it up.
 

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