Ferguson T020

[buckeyepost]

I am new to tractors and am looking at buying this to bush hog and eventually mow about 5 acres. Went and looked at it last night and everything seems to work fine, fired right up in 20 degree temps. My only concern is a small V shaped weld that has been put there to cover a crack on the left side of the block up a little between the 2nd and 3rd cylinders. The current owner said it hasn't leaked in the two years he's had it. Seems like a pretty good deal for the money, don't you think? Thanks!


Ferguson t020 tractor that runs. pto and 3 point operate as they should, new 12v system, lights work, 60" woods mower included. $1600

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Decent price, not a spectacular bargain, but fair..... You'll find quite a few old Fergies and Fords with welded blocks. Done RIGHT, they're OK. (They've spent a LOT of cold winters out in the elements....Law of averages has many freezing) If possible, pressure test the block and/or run it up to operating temps. See if it leaks or overheats.

 

[buckeyepost]

Thanks for the feedback! He painted the body and frame recently so it looks real nice. He also said the clutch is going out so he would install a new one for cost of parts (about $200). Thinking about offering $1600 with the new clutch installed and be done with it. And with a good Woods mower I figure I can use it for years and probably sell it for what I bought it for.

 

[rdbrumfield]

I you do wind up with this tractor, you be sure to put an overrunning clutch on the driveshaft. If you are not familiar with this it is a oneway clutch you can get at most tractor dealers.
the old fords and fergy pto's are engages directly to the tranny. By having that big flywheel, bush hog, spinning, you cannot stop the tractor if it is in gear. Many folks have had their tractors pushed through fences, barns etc, by the power stored in the spinning blades of a mower.
1600 is not a bad price if it is in decent shape. converted to 12v with lights and not beat up I would snap up that one. Around here I see them for around 2500.

Just noticed, with a finish mower you don't have as much energy, but I would still put the overrunning clutch on. everything has to be completly stopped before shifting from forward to reverse without one. Those finish mowers take a bit of clutch slipping to get them going as they are high speed blades. I have a harry ferguson with the same mower.

 

[buckeyepost]

Thanks for the info. I will have to look into the overrunning clutch. Is that something I should talk to the owner about before he replaces the old one? Would it be best to do the work while we have it apart?

 

[Oleozz]

Yes, price is decent if it's in good shape. I had a TO 30 for years, good tractor but very uncomfortable with that big pan for a seat. Mine was basically a mowing and snow plowing machine, it's a tractor to use if you are not in a big hurry to get things done.

 

[buckeyepost]

That is mostly what I will be using it for too, nothing to rigorous.

 

[wwalkersd]

Since you're new to tractors, I'd like to make crystal clear what rdbrumfield observed: the mower that you're getting with the tractor is a finish mower for cutting lawns, not a rotary cutter (aka brush hog) suitable for cutting light brush and natural grasses. Check out the forums at Yesterday's Tractors for all the help you could possibly need on old tractors. You'll find a couple of the other posters from here are over there, too.

 

[buckeyepost]

Great, thanks! The first few years of use will be keeping the brush knocked down on our 5 acre land that was farmed about 5 years ago. I think if I keep up on it and mow it once a month or so it shouldn't be very thick for the finish mower to handle. At least I'm hoping for that since I don't plan to buy an actual bush hog if I don't have to.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

The over-running clutch mentioned is attached directly to the PTO stub shaft on the rear of the tractor and has no direct link to the actual "clutch" linking engine to tranny. It would be an EXTREMELY good idea to include one in your plans. They're available at most any tractor parts outlet, most notably at Tractor Supply Co stores or Northern Tool.


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[buckeyepost]

Looks like a smart and cheap investment. Sounds like it's worth the $75 to a new tractor driver like myself. I really appreciate all the helpful responses posted on here today.

 

[RichZ]

I have a Fegie TO-20. It's a great little tractor. I use it for brush hogging and pulling a manure spreader on my farm. Just make sure that you get that over running clutch.

 

[Soundguy]

If you can get it with the mower and new clutch for 1600$.. that's a fair price... and a good size machine to mantain that 5ac.

do yourself a favor and buy or build a set of depth limit chains.. they pin to brackets at the toplink rocker and then the chains extend down tot he 3pt lift arms.. you set the chains inthe bracket at the top then lower the lift, and the chains hold the mower at a set height. TSC sells them.. or you can torcha nd weld a set up in 5 minutes with a piece of old chain and some 1/4" plate.

20's have no position control.. just draft.. thus the mower may tend to flaot or plow on ya..

soundguy

 

[rankrank1]

Another option to using limit chains is to add the "Zane thang" (about $100) which will give positon control to any 9N/2N Ford that also lack positon control. My understanding is that it will work on the old Fergie's equally as well. I personally would want postion control for use with a back blade or box blade so I would opt for the "Zane thang" over limit chains myself. However if all your going to do is mow then the limit chains will work fine and be cheaper to add especially if you make them yourself from scraps.

 

[tmiller]

they are nice tractors we had one for windrowing hay and running our fiinish mower. We ended up selling it for a Ford 8n. Almost the same thing. I would get it.
--taylor

 

[buckeyepost]

Just got back from looking at another 20 and it was nice too, but this one is $1k more and has a King Kutter mower which I guess isn't as good as the Woods??? I was thinking the same thing Soundguy, $1600 with the new clutch and I asked him if I could lend a hand while he changes the clutch and learn a little more about it. Is changing a clutch a big job? How many hours would you say?

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Just got back from looking at another 20 and it was nice too, but this one is $1k more and has a King Kutter mower which I guess isn't as good as the Woods??? I was thinking the same thing Soundguy, $1600 with the new clutch and I asked him if I could lend a hand while he changes the clutch and learn a little more about it. Is changing a clutch a big job? How many hours would you say?

Splitting a tractor and changing a single stage clutch is fairly simple for anyone who's ever split a tractor...... First time around it's a bit of a challenge. I've changed 2-stage clutch's start to finish in less than 8 hours including rebuilding the clutch pack. Single stage on a smaller tractor for someone with proper equipment should/could be a 4 or 5 hour job.

 

[Soundguy]

Another option to using limit chains is to add the "Zane thang" (about $100) which will give positon control to any 9N/2N Ford that also lack positon control. My understanding is that it will work on the old Fergie's equally as well. I personally would want postion control for use with a back blade or box blade so I would opt for the "Zane thang" over limit chains myself. However if all your going to do is mow then the limit chains will work fine and be cheaper to add especially if you make them yourself from scraps.

or a fergy positioner.. etc..

soundguy

 

[buckeyepost]

Well, I bought it! $1800 with a brand new heavy-duty clutch installed. I drove it around a little yesterday and it feels good. There are some massive wheel weights on the inside of the rear wheels and the guy I bought it from said some guy offered him $400 one time b/c they are hard to find. Is that true? I won't need (or want) that extra weight on there when I'm just going to mowing a yard with it.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

If those are in fact original Ferguson rear wheel weights, they are kinda scarce. You'll need to find a buyer that knows what they are to get full value, but they might just be worth that much. I'd post an add on a forum/site that caters specifically to Fergies. (YT comes to mind)