Ferguson Two Bottom Plow

[nebraskasparks]

Anybody have a web site where I can research and place a value on a Ferguson Two Bottom Plow? Excellent shape and still plow with it.
Plow has brass tag with model (14a) and number (5387) on it.

 

[foggy1111]

I think you may be on the site where you can find a value. Ken Sweet will be along by tomorrow morning and give you an opinion for your part of the world (I think). Put a tape from the center of one beam to the other.....my guess is that its 2x14" bottoms.

In the meantime.....I say a nice two bottom Ferguson plow with counters, a rolling landslide, and no need for major repair will sell for $350 to $550....maybe a bit more ...depending on how bad you want one.

One thing.....I'm not certain that parts interchange with a Dearborn or Ford plow...which could be a factor down the road. ?? (For occasional or garden use....it would likely last a loong time.) Seems you can find parts for the Fords and many Dearborns.

I think the value of these good old plows keeps climbing a bit as there become fewer good ones available to buy. They are more desirable to own/use than a new plow....IMO. I can remember having an assortment of plows like that shown that we offered at $50 to $100....but that was 40 years ago. (grin)

 

[Soundguy]

dearborn of the same style go for 300$ pretty commonly.

soundguy

 

[djradz]

dearborn of the same style go for 300$ pretty commonly.

soundguy

I have the exact same Fergeson-Sherman plow. I'm not expert but have heard it is a little more valuable than the traditional Dearborn, Ford or other Fergeson plows because of:
-main beams were more intricate with molded attachment points for the coulter wheels right in them rather than using a couple of little shaped pieces that clamp the wheel attaching arm.
-the top support is also cast and of a shape different than the others.

 

[sweettractors]

Anybody have a web site where I can research and place a value on a Ferguson Two Bottom Plow? Excellent shape and still plow with it.
Plow has brass tag with model (14a) and number (5387) on it.

From the picture, It appears to be a 2 piece setup on the moldboard with point/share. If this is the case, the plow is fine until you break something. Parts are not available unless you can get a blacksmith to make parts. If I am wrong and it is a 3 piece setup with moldboard/point/share and the shin. Parts are inexpensive and easy to find. Ken Sweet

 

[sweettractors]

This is a 3 piece setup on a plow. You can see in the picture the outline of all 3 parts. We ask $450 for this plow. Ken Sweet

 

[djradz]

From the picture, It appears to be a 2 piece setup on the moldboard with point/share. If this is the case, the plow is fine until you break something. Parts are not available unless you can get a blacksmith to make parts. If I am wrong and it is a 3 piece setup with moldboard/point/share and the shin. Parts are inexpensive and easy to find. Ken Sweet

An additional option is to replace the frog, preferably with one with a moldboard/point/share in good shape already attached. Maybe parts from a plow with bent beam(s) might be available.

 

[hawkeye08]

This is a 3 piece setup on a plow. You can see in the picture the outline of all 3 parts. We ask $450 for this plow. Ken Sweet

Ken, What size is this one? (12, 14, 16, other?)

 

[sweettractors]

Ken, What size is this one? (12, 14, 16, other?)

This one is 14 inch Ford. We have a 14 inch Trip beam John Deere that will be coming out of the shop this week. It has coulters on it and is really super nice. We have a lot of 2-12 plows with no coulters solid beam starting at $375 + modest shipping.(some may need a coat of paint but are not sprung.) In addition, we have some 2-12 trip beam plows in the $450 range with no coulters. Ken Sweet

 

[MBDiagMan]

I have one very much like that one that I gave $250 for about 24 years ago. I had no idea it was appreciating. I still use it, so it's market value is not of much concern to me.

 

[cherokeecowboy]

I have one very much like that one that I gave $250 for about 24 years ago. I had no idea it was appreciating. I still use it, so it's market value is not of much concern to me.

Same here, mine looks very similar to the one pictured. I'm not sure what my dad gave when he bought it. I'm not able to read anything on the tag except Ferguson on the top . I'd love to know how old mine is. It still sees dirt work every year.

 

[nebraskasparks]

Thanks Ken and everyone,

Any idea on the age of the thing...I couldn't find a date on it.

 

[sweettractors]

Thanks Ken and everyone,

Any idea on the age of the thing...I couldn't find a date on it.

I am going to guestimate in the forties, maybe real early fifties? Ken Sweet

 

[djradz]

I am going to guestimate in the forties, maybe real early fifties? Ken Sweet

I am not an expert on this, but I think the 14A pictured is older and (at least from a collector's point of view) more valuable, especially as it appears to be in pretty good shape. The Ford 9N came out in 1939 and Ferguson-Sherman were supposed to be making (well actually, purchasing with their name on them)the plows and other implements to suit it, right from the get-go, but I believe they were a little tardy. Nonetheless, with such a low serial number (mine is #29904 and still an early version) I would estimate the date to be early 1940s, but I'm sure someone on TBN has an actual table of the serial numbers versus the year of manufacture. I think too that all the Ferguson-Sherman 3-pt implements pre-date any of the Dearborn or Ford implements, but I'm not positive if there is some overlap.

 

[nebraskasparks]

I am not an expert on this, but I think the 14A pictured is older and (at least from a collector's point of view) more valuable, especially as it appears to be in pretty good shape. The Ford 9N came out in 1939 and Ferguson-Sherman were supposed to be making (well actually, purchasing with their name on them)the plows and other implements to suit it, right from the get-go, but I believe they were a little tardy. Nonetheless, with such a low serial number (mine is #29904 and still an early version) I would estimate the date to be early 1940s, but I'm sure someone on TBN has an actual table of the serial numbers versus the year of manufacture. I think too that all the Ferguson-Sherman 3-pt implements pre-date any of the Dearborn or Ford implements, but I'm not positive if there is some overlap.

Appreciate it...do you know what site I can use to check it out?

 

[djradz]

I don't. Maybe Yesterday's Tractors?

 

[Soundguy]

that's be my sugestion as well.

go ahead and post in the implements forum and the fergy forum.. if no hits there ( slow forums ).. post int he ford 8n forum. lots of action there.. and lots of owners with other tractors and implements there.

soundguy

 

[djradz]

Here is some more information. Especially check out Hib's posts.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/76852-my-first-plow.html

According to what he says, ours (model 14A, not AO) was made only the first few years of the 3-pt era, from '39-'42. Now I'm really smiling!

 

[nebraskasparks]

Here is some more information. Especially check out Hib's posts.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/76852-my-first-plow.html

According to what he says, ours (model 14A, not AO) was made only the first few years of the 3-pt era, from '39-'42. Now I'm really smiling!

Thanks djradz...that article written under the topic "My First Plow" is excellent.
Thanks for the help.