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/ First tractor- Could really use input #61  
If the B had a loader and a backhoe I think it would easily do what the OP needs it to. Agree, weight is a plus for a lot of tractor things though mowing not one of them.
For the OPs uses it would, but you said name one thing she could do with an L that a B wouldn't do. I needed to move a 5' tiller and the loader tractor was at another location. I hooked it to the B and it lifted and drove around with it. I'm tempted to try to till with it. With only 17 horses under the hood it'll probably struggle, but I bet it would do it.
 
/ First tractor- Could really use input #62  
For the OPs uses it would, but you said name one thing she could do with an L that a B wouldn't do. I needed to move a 5' tiller and the loader tractor was at another location. I hooked it to the B and it lifted and drove around with it. I'm tempted to try to till with it. With only 17 horses under the hood it'll probably struggle, but I bet it would do it.

I bet it would too.. might just have to go slow and a little shallow each pass.
 
/ First tractor- Could really use input #63  
I have 18 acres 12 of which are under water. My 1710 is about like the L2501 and it is perfect for a lot of things. I certainly would not go smaller unless you really wanted a lot of maneuverability like getting into stalls in a horse barn. If anything I would go a little larger but I am certainly not complaining.

Somebody said a wheeled tractor is not good around ponds but mine has never heard that. It is around it and in it (intentionally) many times a year.

BTW - a sickle bar mower is really nice for trimming around a pond. Here is a video of mine at work. Pond Edge Trimming - YouTube
 
/ First tractor- Could really use input #64  
I have 18 acres 12 of which are under water. My 1710 is about like the L2501 and it is perfect for a lot of things. I certainly would not go smaller unless you really wanted a lot of maneuverability like getting into stalls in a horse barn. If anything I would go a little larger but I am certainly not complaining.

Somebody said a wheeled tractor is not good around ponds but mine has never heard that. It is around it and in it (intentionally) many times a year.

BTW - a sickle bar mower is really nice for trimming around a pond. Here is a video of mine at work. Pond Edge Trimming - YouTube

Not going to lie.. I have "Pond Envy":D
 
/ First tractor- Could really use input #65  
Somebody said a wheeled tractor is not good around ponds but mine has never heard that. It is around it and in it (intentionally) many times a year.

Just last week I suffered the embarrassment of having my wife help me pull our 6x4 Gator out of the pond with the Ford tractor. East Texas ponds seem to be governed by different physics than the rest of the world. I was driving along the edge of the pond, and at least 2 feet away, and suddenly the left tires were in it. It was inextricably stuck, and even it's winch wouldn't pull it out.

It's the soil. Much of East Texas is expansive clay. The shoreline of a pond can be utter gumbo and look just fine. You learn to stay away...I'm obviously still learning.
 
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#66  
I took some pictures while I was out there today and went through some older ones from spring last year. I realized most of the pictures are of the pond or with kids in them- LOL! Not much of the rest of the land I have to manage. Looking at spec sheets the only real difference I see between the B2601 and L2501 is size- they have the same horsepower and just about everything with the B being about 1,000lbs lighter. I have included a photo of the spec sheets as well as a lot of it is still foreign language to me but I learning. These photos show some of the fence I've had torn out and tallow trees and small pines removed. Opened it up so much- a tractor would make it all a billion times easier. Which one though- that is the final question? I have to make a decision Monday.

Dropbox - Farm
 
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I have to decide by Monday because my husband is over it and has threatened to learn how to use the back hoe and bury me with it if I don't make up my mind soon!
 
/ First tractor- Could really use input #68  
Wow, that is a beautiful property! I don't think you will feel that you bought the wrong tractor either way you go.. so don't sweat and go buy it today!
 
/ First tractor- Could really use input #69  
Just my opinion. The L is a great size for most small land owners. Heavy and nimble enough with great capacity but not too cumbersome or too heavy. I just traded in a New Holland 1720 for a utility sized machine. The 1720 is the same sized tractor as the L. You can do a lot of work with that size tractor. If I was doing mostly all mowing then the B would be sufficient. In a perfect world I would have both of them in my shop.
 
/ First tractor- Could really use input #70  
Many of us encounter "analysis paralysis" on our first or even subsequent machines. Even with months of research and years experience, in my case 60+, we can have a problem picking the right tractor. I once went to buy a B3200 and came home with a 50HP cab and was happy that I had bought just the right one. Another time I went to buy a B2920 and came home with a BX2660.

The question was asked "what will an L do that a B won't?" Well what will a B do that a BX won't and what will a BX do you can't do with a lawn mower, shovel and wheel barrow. As I said in my first post, either a B or L will work, all we can do is state our preference given your budget and parameters. It's only an opinion because I wouldn't buy either. You are simply going to have to figure needs and strong points and lean towards the necessary, most often uses and compromise on the other as no one, in my opinion, makes one machine that's great for all your chores.

Your husband has approved a budget for an L2501 with a back hoe, you can get the L2501 without a back hoe and buy a nice lawn mower for the same cost. On some tractors, adding an MMM will cost close to a lawn mower.

Good luck.
 
/ First tractor- Could really use input #71  
I would definitely go with the L2501 with HST. It is a great compromise between maneuverability and being big enough to get most work done on a small farm. You'll see a lot of folks wishing they had gotten the next size up. I took that into consideration when I bought mine and have not regretted it. Just be careful around those ponds no matter what you get. Good luck and welcome (soon) to the Kubota family.
 
/ First tractor- Could really use input #72  
Nice looking place. Looks like there could be a lot of mowing.

Mowing is a rotary application that depends on PTO horsepower not tractor size and weight.

Heavier tractor is also more difficult to pull out when it gets stuck.

I'm in the B camp with backhoe.

Have you looked at any other make Sure?
 
/ First tractor- Could really use input #73  
I am just clearing some fence lines/cross fencing that is needed. It has just been a place for trees and brush to grow up and we don't need it. And clearing brush/saplings that have grown up around the edge of the pond. I am so torn- right now I have a gentleman doing it by hand for me and if I got a tractor it would make it even easier for him and he could move much faster.

Yes, even though I'm in favor of lots of tractors and lots of implements now, we sure didn't start that way.
We started on our 10 acres & pond with a basic small hp four wheel drive tractor with wider tires, a front end loader, and a pull behind PTO mower.
The work we did with that tractor was just fantastic. We used it every day for years and just loved it. Looking back, the only thing we regretted was not getting power steering & probably we should have gotten one slightly larger - say 25 hp or so..

So rest assured that even a basic 4wd tractor with a loader and a three point PTO driven mower will be great for your place. HST and power steering if you can swing them. 25 hp is about right. Maybe you are wise not to get too much machinery all at once. After all, it worked for us. Everything else can be added as you need it.

As for mowing, No matter what type of mower you use with a tractor, it will only do the larger areas; you will still need to finish up the tight areas with a regular hand-guided lawn mower. So leave a few bucks for a lawn mower.
good luck,
rScotty

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/ First tractor- Could really use input #74  
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Are the front end loader specs essentially the same? Same size bucket?
Just be sure to get at least a hydraulic top link (and the necessary rear remote).

Also, if you are cearing fence line one of these with hydraulic third function controls would be awesome:
Tree Fence Post Puller Skid Steer Attachment Quick Attach Bobcat Kubota Case

They are a bit different. The B2601 has the LA 434 with a lift capacity of 948lbs with max height of 78.5in. The L2501 has a LA 525 with max of 1131lbs and height of 94.3".

I have breaches down my dam right now that need to be fixed. The beavers are actually saving the dam at the moment. After I get it professionally fixed I will need to start removing the trees, stumps, and roots or it will just keep breaching I have found out. It is quite grown up along the edges as the previous few owners did not realize the effect the trees would have on the dam. They die and the roots rot and then the water flows through I have found out. If I had the backhoe I could do a lot of it myself. The L2501 has a BH77 and the B2601 has a BH70 with the reversible seat.
 
/ First tractor- Could really use input #76  
Really think you should at least go have a look at the B26 like others have mentioned, not knocking the other models you are considering, but the TLB models are built much stronger. Simply taking one for a spin around the dealers lot will be enough to notice the difference between them and a standard tractor with a backhoe attached as an accessory. Try using the backhoe on both and again you will notice a difference.
 
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@KyleH- the B2601 is one I'm considering...are you referring to a different model?
 
/ First tractor- Could really use input #78  
We moved to East Texas 2 years ago. I brought my JD 2210 (CUT) with, which I've had since 2005, and as expected, it is indispensable. Of our 17 acres, it mows the homestead, and the fence lines, about 3 acres all together. I end up mowing all 17 acres (except wooded and pond areas) at least twice a year, as it is the cheapest weed control measure. The 2210 is not suitable for mowing that much acreage because the hp rating is lacking to rough cut that much acreage in a timely manner. What I did is get a 40-75 hp class tractor and a brushhog for those areas.

Considering that I would primarily only be mowing with this larger tractor, I was confident buying something old but serviceable for the task, and ended up with a '76 Ford 4400, and it's been fine. Considering that I will probably only put 30 hours a year on it, it will probably outlive me. Older tractors whose depreciation has bottomed out can be had for as little as $2-5k. One place to watch for prospects is Facebook groups in your area. I bought my last tractor off of East Texas Farm Tractor & Equipment.

If you are worried about having an old tractor, remember that ALL tractors need to be maintained, whether they are a month old, a century, or anything in between. If you don't maintain, you pay.

My point is, buy your CUT, you'll need it, but don't be surprised if you end up shopping for something with more HP in the near future. Maybe you can get the dealer to toss a used mid size tractor into the deal :).
 
/ First tractor- Could really use input #79  
@KyleH- the B2601 is one I'm considering...are you referring to a different model?

Yes, the B26 is a TLB and is more of a commercial unit. It will seem like a lot more money than a standard tractor, but not when you consider what a L2501 is with a loader and backhoe will add up to with some accessories, the B26 will do more and not wear out as fast. Price both out at your dealer and test both out, you will see the difference in the material used for the backhoe and loader, much thicker and heavier.

Only recommend this model based on getting a backhoe, if you decide not to get a backhoe the standard tractor will do fine.

http://kubota.com/product/B26/B26.aspx
 
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Ah- gotcha. Yes I looked up that one but it's about $10K more. Way out of my budget- thanks for the rec though.
 

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