Snow Equipment Owning/Operating Fitting chains R4

/ Fitting chains R4 #1  

OZisKTB

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John Deere 3720 Cab with 300CX loader
Based on TBN advice i bought 2 link chains for my R4s for this snow season. Heavy for my old bones, and awkward to drape over.

I've seen some nice videos of hooking the chains to voids in the rims, and moving forward pulling the chains over most of the tire.

My John Deere lacks voids to easily connect the chains for this type of operation.

Anyone else have some muscle saving techniques for getting these heavy, awkward beasties :mur: in place for connecting and tightening?

Thanks!
 
/ Fitting chains R4 #2  
I grab the middle and drape them equally front and back. The attach the insides (ends) if I can, or add a wire between the ends. On the outside I also connect if I can or add a wire. Then drive enough to get one end far enuff under or showing that the usual procedure can then proceed. Usually I have the insides tighter than outside to start and finally take up the outside slack after some driving.
 
/ Fitting chains R4 #3  
You could make up a chain 'leader' out of light chain. Like pulling a heavy cable with a smaller wire or rope. I haven't tried this, my wheels have slots to pass a pulling chain through. I jack up the rear of the tractor to mount the chains turning the tire by hand to pull the chain up using the leverage of the tire radius.

Here is how it could work:

Layout the real tire chain, right side up, straight behind the rear tire it will be mounted on. Attach a ladder chain--made-up of the light leader chain--to the end of the real chain nearest the tire. The made-up ladder chain should be wide enough to stay on the tire without slipping off to the side.

Drape the made-up ladder chain over the tire and all the way to the ground in front of the tire.

Drive forward. You might have to stop every couple feet and move the chains into alignment.
 
/ Fitting chains R4 #4  
Next time you buy a tractor just put some R-3's (lawn and garden tread) on it. I can't believe how much traction I have in snow and I don't have to bother with chains at all. If you have ice just blow the snow onto the ice, wait a bit, and then blow it off again. You'll have all the traction you need.
 
/ Fitting chains R4 #5  
You could make up a chain 'leader' out of light chain. Like pulling a heavy cable with a smaller wire or rope. I haven't tried this, my wheels have slots to pass a pulling chain through. I jack up the rear of the tractor to mount the chains turning the tire by hand to pull the chain up using the leverage of the tire radius.

Here is how it could work:

Layout the real tire chain, right side up, straight behind the rear tire it will be mounted on. Attach a ladder chain--made-up of the light leader chain--to the end of the real chain nearest the tire. The made-up ladder chain should be wide enough to stay on the tire without slipping off to the side.

Drape the made-up ladder chain over the tire and all the way to the ground in front of the tire.

Drive forward. You might have to stop every couple feet and move the chains into alignment.

Agree, I also jack up the back, hang the chain on the R4 lugs and rotate the tire around. I can do both rears in about 8 minutes or less (including jacking time).
 
/ Fitting chains R4 #6  
Agree, I also jack up the back, hang the chain on the R4 lugs and rotate the tire around. I can do both rears in about 8 minutes or less (including jacking time).

Takes me 8 minutes to clear a path to get the floor jack to the tractor. :laughing:

Mounting all four chains takes me about 2 hours. My rear chains are heavy, 3/8" with studs. I don't think I could get the chain up on the tire without some leverage. Even if I could lift the chain, I'm not going to be able to do anything with it.

If had it to do over, I would probably look for a lighter, easier mounting chain but these chains work well after wrestling them on. I leave them on all winter, so it's only once per year.

Just a friendly reminder--raise your FEL before jacking up the rear of a tractor.
 
/ Fitting chains R4 #7  
Takes me 8 minutes to clear a path to get the floor jack to the tractor. :laughing:

Mounting all four chains takes me about 2 hours. My rear chains are heavy, 3/8" with studs. I don't think I could get the chain up on the tire without some leverage. Even if I could lift the chain, I'm not going to be able to do anything with it.

If had it to do over, I would probably look for a lighter, easier mounting chain but these chains work well after wrestling them on. I leave them on all winter, so it's only once per year.

Just a friendly reminder--raise your FEL before jacking up the rear of a tractor.

My rear chains are 4 link ladder not the every 2 link. They are 3/8" and are heavy. I jack up the rear on a level surface and put it in neutral. Chains are laid on floor behind tractor. I lift one end of the chain about a foot and hook that on the R4 lugs then rotate the tire to use its leverage to pull the chain around. Then connect the inside link first then the outer link. Last is 2 bungees across the wheel to keep them tight. Front chains are easier. Just use the loader to raise the wheels off the ground then put the chains on. Before using this method I would always hurt my back trying to lift the chain and drape it over the tire which is really hard to do with fenders.
 

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/ Fitting chains R4 #8  
I lay out all 4 chains then drive onto them then lift them over the top and connect the inside first. Thank goodness the fronts aren't as big as the rears! I also leave them on all winter. Mine are 4 link v-bars and I ripped sheets of OSB to put on the floor to save it. Three winters on the same boards and I'm sure I have a couple of more to go before I have to replace them.
 
/ Fitting chains R4 #9  
This is the style of Tellefsdal chain I have for the rears, light v-bars on the fronts.

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I use recycled tire horse stall mats on the floor. We had some extras that used to be in a dog kennel. They are probably worth buying for ice chain parking on concrete for mid-size and up CUT tractors. Water proof and seem to never wear out.
 
/ Fitting chains R4 #10  
This is the style of Tellefsdal chain I have for the rears, light v-bars on the fronts.

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I use recycled tire horse stall mats on the floor. We had some extras that used to be in a dog kennel. They are probably worth buying for ice chain parking on concrete for mid-size and up CUT tractors. Water proof and seem to never wear out.

Nice set of chains. Do you log in the winter?
 
/ Fitting chains R4 #11  
Nice set of chains. Do you log in the winter?

No. That's just an image from the internet, not my tractor but my rear chains are the same. I used to have a pic of my chains on TBN but it's gone from my attachments.
 
/ Fitting chains R4 #12  
No. That's just an image from the internet, not my tractor but my rear chains are the same. I used to have a pic of my chains on TBN but it's gone from my attachments.

Ok. I have a photo of my snow removal stuff in the thread that's 200+ pages, can't even find it.
 
/ Fitting chains R4 #13  
My rear chains are 4 link ladder not the every 2 link. They are 3/8" and are heavy. I jack up the rear on a level surface and put it in neutral. Chains are laid on floor behind tractor. I lift one end of the chain about a foot and hook that on the R4 lugs then rotate the tire to use its leverage to pull the chain around. Then connect the inside link first then the outer link. Last is 2 bungees across the wheel to keep them tight. Front chains are easier. Just use the loader to raise the wheels off the ground then put the chains on. Before using this method I would always hurt my back trying to lift the chain and drape it over the tire which is really hard to do with fenders.

I just got some 2 link chains for my 2320 at the end of last winter and the above is how I got them on to start.. having another set of hands to hold the tire in place after you roll the chains up is nice to have.

After i get them connected the first time, while the tractor is still jacked up I try to hook the chains as tight as possible - then rotate the tires several times - retighten the chains a link or two - lather/rinse/repeat until all the slack is out of the chains..

My debate is i have 3 asphalt drive ways (mine included).. Do i put the chains on for all the drives OR try to clear the 3 drives and then put the chains on.. Im leaning toward putting them on and leaving them on.. Who want to be out in the cold/wet putting on chains with snow/water dripping off the tractor..
 

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