Fittings/Couplers Question(s)

[ericm979]

I'd use the same hose size as the existing loader hoses. It's probably 3/8 or maybe 5/16 like mine. You don't need 1/2 all the way, it doesn't flow that much. The smaller hoses will be easier to route and cost less too. You will need 3/8 quick connects to plug into the loader quick connects.

If you're clever and the stock stuff is routed right, you can use the existing hard lines with your diverter. You'll need short hoses from the diverter to the tees to the cylinders.

Rather than guessing on hose lengths, use a piece of old garden hose to mock up the routing and measure that. Surpluscenter sells hoses in 6" and 1' increments. That's the least expensive option. DiscountHydraulicHose is a better deal for custom lengths. I dislike NPT for hydraulics- you have to tighten the heck out of them and use a sealant to get them to seal. I use adaptors for NPT fitting like quick connects and then use JIC for everything else. Hoses with female JIC swivel ends are super common and almost as cheap and ones with plain NPT.

 

[LouNY]

OK we will see if this works, I did a quick sketch of one possible way that should work may not be the best.
All the part numbers and pricing that I included are from Surplus Center just for information not necessarily a recommendation.

good luck

 

[LouNY]

Oh almost forgot your diverter has a #4 drain line which should return to your tank,
I don't know if it would impair the function if just plugged off.

The diverters that I have purchased and used from Bailey Hydraulics did not have a drain port.

 

[hks003]

Why will I need 3/8 quick connections for the loader? I don't plan on undoing the quick connects at the control valve. Also, I tried surplus center for hoses, but I couldn't find a way to get hoses with two different type ends. Should I just get them with #8 SAE then get a coupler with JIC on the other side?

That sketch helps clear things up a lot, that's awesome!

Thanks for all the help guys, I really appreciate it!

 

[LouNY]

Why will I need 3/8 quick connections for the loader? I don't plan on undoing the quick connects at the control valve. Also, I tried surplus center for hoses, but I couldn't find a way to get hoses with two different type ends. Should I just get them with #8 SAE then get a coupler with JIC on the other side?

That sketch helps clear things up a lot, that's awesome!

Thanks for all the help guys, I really appreciate it!

You shouldn't need 3/8 quick connects as you say you are not undoing the ones at the valve.

Why would you want hoses with two different ends?
Are you trying to fit the hoses to your diverter without using fittings?
Hoses with female JIC swivels allow you to make up your hoses to fittings on both ends, simply by tightening the female swivels.

 

[ericm979]

Buy SAE or NPT or whatever you need to JIC adaptors and then use JIC hoses. 1/2" quick connect is the standard for ag implements. Surpluscenter has good prices on hydraulic fittings.

Use LocTite 545 on the NPT threads. It works much better than teflon pipe dope and does not risk getting pieces in the hydraulics like with teflon tape.

 

[ericm979]

Why will I need 3/8 quick connections for the loader? I don't plan on undoing the quick connects at the control valve.

I thought you were replacing the curl hoses that run from the loader valve to the tees. You can reuse the existing 3/8 QCs on your new longer hoses or if you can reuse those hoses then of course you won't need them.

 

[hks003]

OK we will see if this works, I did a quick sketch of one possible way that should work may not be the best.
All the part numbers and pricing that I included are from Surplus Center just for information not necessarily a recommendation.
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good luck

Looking at your sketch, wouldn't the return going back into the T come from Port C instead of P2? I thought P1 and P2 were your incoming ports, and C and D went to the top and bottom of your curl cylinders, and A and B went to the open and close of the grapple.

 

[LouNY]

Looking at your sketch, wouldn't the return going back into the T come from Port C instead of P2? I thought P1 and P2 were your incoming ports, and C and D went to the top and bottom of your curl cylinders, and A and B went to the open and close of the grapple.

Yes it would, opps glad you caught that

 

[hks003]

So I've been adding and removing stuff from shopping carts for a week and I think I have a working set of parts. Anyone see anything I missed?