Fixin' to pull the trigger

[jezreel]

OK. . . So I made another stop by the JD dealer who was really good to deal with. After the past two days, I know I need a rotary cutter and disc harrow. Box blade is not needed right now, plus my builder has one he will let me borrow. When I left the JD guy, I was 99% sure I壇 go with the JD4044 with the Gear Box. I feel really comfortable with hears and it is $1400 less. Plus, I don稚 really care for the HST. The JD insurance is way less than the Kubota, and covers basically the same stuff. I left feeling like I could live with the 4044. When I got home and started doing the math, and considering both tractors, I still feel the Kubota MX4800 is the better deal, as it is 杜ore tractor to begin with considering overall HP and PTO HP. Plus, there are a few things about the JD I just don稚 care for. Not complete deal breakers, but enough to make me want to spend the extra bucks.

rScotty. . . Regarding the property. Yes, we are a week away from moving in, but we have had the 20 acres for a year and a half, and I知 very familiar with it. So that shouldn稚 be an issue. The main reason I want to get it by the end of December is so I can start preparing the pastures for the sprigging and seeding. They are gonna need a lot of work, and the sooner I can turn some of those weeds, the sooner they will start degrading. And I will take Jeff痴 advice on continuing to disc for the new weeds.

With all that said. . . I Know what my choice is. It is the MX4800 with the Land Pride RCR1272 and DH1572, Kubota Insurance and fianc for 60mos at 0%. Simple enough. . . Now I gotta convince my wife. I am going to really focus on how well the Kubota痴 hold their value. And also, that this will be a lifetime tractor.

If y誕ll have any comments on the JD4044 vs the MX4800, let me have them.

I知 getting close. And that is because of help from all of y誕ll. Thanks so much. I知 typing this on my phone, so forgive any blunders.

 

[Trillium Farm]

Does that cover those if bought together or only the tractor?

That I don't know, but I think that if you finance the pkg with Kubota it should include the implements as well.

 

[rScotty]

SNIP
With all that said. . . I Know what my choice is. It is the MX4800 with the Land Pride RCR1272 and DH1572, Kubota Insurance and fianc for 60mos at 0%. Simple enough. . . Now I gotta convince my wife. I am going to really focus on how well the Kubotaç—´ hold their value. And also, that this will be a lifetime tractor.

If y誕ll have any comments on the JD4044 vs the MX4800, let me have them.
SNIP

I did much the same. When we started searching for a new tractor. I just figured it would be a JD. We love JD. Nobody was more surprised than I was to end up with a new Kubota. Price wasn't our reason. It had more to do with features we wanted. Both makes are tops of course.

On the MX4800 you couldn't go much better or safer for a lifetime machine than to get a basic gear tractor in that size range.
If it were me I'd give the dealer a chance to price out the M5660SU just to see if he could get close to the MX price. You never know. That SU is similar to the MX, but does come with a couple of standard features you would appreciate. I personally wouldn't go an extra $6k to get one, but might go half that.

On the MX though... if I were buying it & wanted to keep price as low as possible .... I'd go with R4 tires & add the canopy. Everything else is nice and surely tempting, but can be added later as budget allows.

Consider if you want to buy from a dealer close to where you are or where you are moving. And when you sit down to buy, please think about those questions in the sales contract mentioned earlier.
rScotty

 

[jeff9366]

Land Pride DH 1572

This Disc Harrow has 18" pans and and Disc loading of 34 pounds per pan. Pan spacing is 7-1/2".

In the conditions you described this model will disappoint.



Land Pride DH 2572

This Disc Harrow has your choice of 20" or 22" pans and and Disc loading of 47 pounds (20") per pan or 51 pounds (22") per pan.
Pan spacing is 7-1/2".

Much better than DH 1572.

https://cdn-assets.greatplainsmfg.com/ari/attach/lp/public/specs/322-013s.pdf



With your rocks, 9" pan spacing will allow better rock passage through the pan "gates" no matter how disc gangs are adjusted, relative to 7-1/2" spacing. I would ask your dealer for additional DH suggestions with 9" pan spacing.

TH & TH/BF Series Tandem Lift Disc Harrows | Tufline

Dirt Dog Manufacturing >> Disc Harrows Tillage - 300 Series

Hay King 3-Pt Disc Harrows - Hay King - Miller TEXAS COMPANY

https://www.woodsequipment.com/files/products/literature/B111501 Disc Harrows Series Intro.pdf

https://community.agriculture.com/t5/Machinery/Disc-spacing/td-p/119025

 

[jezreel]

Thanks for the encouragement rScotty. Those comments give me confidence in the decision I know I want to make. I know the Kubota is what I want, it just gets down to price right now. I want a Ferrari for the price of a Kia. But the extra money will be well spent over the long run.

Thanks Jeff for the comment about the Disc Harrow. I won稚 waste my time with the 1572.

I will be visiting a 3rd Kubota dealer in the next few days. Hopefully my salesman will be more friendly and helpful than the last two. My JD and TYM sales guys were so awesome. I just did not get that initial service from the previous 2 Kubota guys. They answered questions and priced out the machine, but they were none to anxious to offer to fill the rear tires, deliver the machine or talk me into buying their product. Once again, maybe they saw a city slicker and didn稚 think I was serious.

Thanks folks.

 

[tlj87]

I don’t think it’s been mentioned yet in this thread, but the MX4800 is no longer being produced. So, if it’s what you want, you will be limited to dealers that still have them in stock. The MX4800 will not be replaced with a new model, Kubota is directing customers to either the L4701 or the MX5400.

 

[jezreel]

Ahhhhh. . . Very interesting. I reckon that is why the last Kubota guy told me he couldn't get one from the factory.

Thanks for the info tlj87.

 

[rScotty]

I don稚 think it痴 been mentioned yet in this thread, but the MX4800 is no longer being produced. So, if it痴 what you want, you will be limited to dealers that still have them in stock. The MX4800 will not be replaced with a new model, Kubota is directing customers to either the L4701 or the MX5400.

Where did you hear that? How sure are you? The MX4800 is still listed on the Kubota USA site where you can "build your own", check relative prices of options, and presumably order one outfitted the way you've built it.

BTW, while toying with the "build it yourself" app, I see that wheel weights are still available as an option for most new models & at pretty good prices. Weights sure beat liquid-filled tires if you ever get a flat or slow leak.

I also see that the prices on Kubota's price are somewhat higher when you "build your own" online than what I've heard quoted from local dealers. As an example, the M5660SU comes in at about 38K with a loader on the "build your own" site, but I recall one person on this forum said he was quoted 32K from a dealer in Pa for that tractor with loader late last spring. They might be less now.....
rScotty

 

[tlj87]

Where did you hear that? How sure are you? The MX4800 is still listed on the Kubota USA site where you can "build your own", check relative prices of options, and presumably order one outfitted the way you've built it.

BTW, while toying with the "build it yourself" app, I see that wheel weights are still available as an option for most new models & at pretty good prices. Weights sure beat liquid-filled tires if you ever get a flat or slow leak.

I also see that the prices on Kubota's price are somewhat higher when you "build your own" online than what I've heard quoted from local dealers. As an example, the M5660SU comes in at about 38K with a loader on the "build your own" site, but I recall one person on this forum said he was quoted 32K from a dealer in Pa for that tractor with loader late last spring. They might be less now.....
rScotty

Re: MX4800: I am shopping the Grand L, MX, and M5660, so I learned this from my dealer. Kubota is slow to update their site. There is info on the main page about the updated Mx series, but there is no build page yet. Also, see this video: Kubota 2020 New Products \\ Dealer Meeting in 10 minutes. - YouTube

 

[jeff9366]

I wonder if one new MX will be naturally aspirated and the other turbocharged?