Floating the FEL on a BX23

[Tractor_Jim_CT]

Thanks everyone for your help today.
I visit TBN about once a day and the contributions are helpful to tractor fans. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

 

[btolle]

Tdog, don't think you are the only one who takes a while to discover things. My B7510 has 52 hours on it and I just discovered (by some comments on the forum) that I also have a 'float' position on the bucket dump. If I push the handle all the way to the right the bucket dumps itself. I missed that in the Operator's Manual when I read it the first time.

BTW, I find that I need to re-read the Operator's Manuals on equipment after I have a few hours on the equipment. Once I am more familiar with the machine I understand the manual better.

All these modern gadgets take us old folks some time to catch on to!

Bill Tolle

 

[jpr62902]

Tractor Jim, the BX doesn't have to be in neutral when using the "float" position on the joystick, but WHATEVER you do, make sure the 4WD is disengaged and that your left turn signal is on before putting the FEL in float. It also helps if your wearing a bright pink shirt, too.

(Okay everybody, SHhhhhhhhh!)

Now, once you get that worked out, let me know and I'll teach you how to remove your garage door with your ROPS. I've done it so many times now, it's a snap for me. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

 

[radair]

I'm so glad I saw this post yesterday. A few inches of snow last night cleaned up so much easier this morning using this float control. I'm not sure how I missed it in the manual, but I didn't miss it here.

Thanks guys!

 

[Tractor_Jim_CT]

Conclusion..the float position worked perfectly and the joy stick worked with little effort...made a big difference removing snow off the driveway. Glad I asked the question since it helped others also.

 

[Rusty]

Bill Tolle - What model FEL do you have on your B-7510? I have a LA 302 on my 2003 B-7500. I can't find anything in the FEL manual about a float position for the bucket dump. It's cold and dark now, but I will try to find the float position for the dump tomorrow.

 

[frank_f15]

Rusty: i have a 98 b2400 and the only thing i have is if u push the joystick harder to the right u get a much faster dump. not to say the newer models have such a thing as what he mentioned, be curious to find out, also not sure that would be a good thing.

 

[jam2004]

Does the bucket have to be on the ground to put in the float position? Do you have to quickly move the stick all the way forward to avoid having the bucket raise the front wheels?

 

[btolle]

I have the LA 272 loader on my B7510. The operator's Manual makes reference to a 3 position valve and a 4 position valve and I have the 4 position valve. If you look at the lower end of the valve (the end opposite the valve handle) there are 2 hex shaped devices. If 1 is short and the other long it is a 3 position valve. If the are both long (the same lengths, about 2 1/2") you have a 4 position valve.

Now that I read the instructions it is NOT the same thing as a "float".

From the Operator's Manual (manual applies to LA272, LA302, LA352, LA402 loaders), page 18:
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4 position bucket control valve type

This control valve has two stage dump positions. The rirst "regenerative" dump position activated by moving the lever to the right features high speed for efficient normal loader operations.

The second "Regular" dump position activated by moving the lever further to the right features increased power. This second position should be used when operating implements other than the loader with this control valve. These two positions are separated by a "Feel" position for your convenience.
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I just discovered this position yesterday and only tried it once or twice to dump the bucket since I thought that was what it was for. According to the above instructions that is not what it is for.

From what I read (and copied above) it appears that this position would be used for something other than a FEL and may give a greater flow if that is what they mean by "increased power".

I did not notice when I tried it yesterday whether it stayed in that position like the "float" does or not. Since I expected it to just dump I didn't really notice anything other than the bucket tilted down and I did not have anything in it.

Now that I think about it that would be dangerous anyway. If you were dumping in the back of a pickup and accidentally pushed the handle too far you could drop the bucket on the side of the pickup bed. Not good.

Guess I need to do some further research. It is 35 degrees and dark outside so further research effort are postponed for a few days!

How many of you have an extra position on your loader valve that you didn't know about?

Will you feel cheated and trade your Kubota in for a Mahindra tomorrow if you didn't get a 4 position valve?

And what does that extra position really do?

Will your friends with 3 position valves hate you because they are envious of your 4 position valve?

What are "implements other than the loader"?

How long are you going to lay awake tonight wondering about this?

Who among you will go out into the cold dark night tonight to research and report back on this?

Who the heck really cares?

Will this post never end?

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Bill Tolle

 

[Junkman]

I don't know where this started, but it isn't the float isn't in the dump position, it is in the lowering position. Think of the valve as a clock and the lowering position is at 12 o'clock. When you push the lever toward the 12 o'clock position, the loader bucket will descend. When you push it a little further, it will put hydraulic fluid into the cylinders and the bucket will push down on the ground, lifting the front wheels. If you push the lever "harder" toward the 12 o'clock position, you will go past the position that puts the down pressure to the bucket, and the bucket is now in the float position. The lever will stay in this position until you pull it back (toward the 6 o'clock position. You can not change the angle of the bucket (by moving the lever toward the 3 or 6 o'clock position) until you first remove it from the float position. I have never seen a loader that didn't have this feature, but I am certain that there was one made somewhere in the world for some special purpose. One thing to consider, is the angle of the bucket when you put it into the float position. If the bucket is curled up, then it will tend to ride up on the snow and not pick up much snow. If the bucket is tilted too low in the front, then it might dig into the ground that you are trying to clear. For this reason, I suggest that you invest in a bucket leveling gauge. I have one on my BX22 and find it an valuable tool in keeping the bucket level where I want it to be under all terrain conditions. There is a small yellow ring that is positioned at the top of the tube when the bucket is level with the ground. When the ring is higher than the tube, the bucket front is tilted upward, and when you can't see the yellow ring, the bucket front is tilted downward Where to purchase......