grateful4
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Just picked up this Ford 1710 and the WSM will be delivered this week. I've read a lot on this forum and I have a lot of respect for all of you.
Tractor:
Early 80's Ford 1710
Cause:
Previous owner says there was a knock, he ran it low on oil and couldnt get it started after that. (Early 70s gentleman, his first and last tractor he said, he bought it 3 months ago.)
Fluids;
1. New WIX Oil Filter
2. Fresh 15W/40 cj4 - Just over 4.5 quarts
Added
3. Just under 1 Quart Marvel Mystery Oil added to oil
4. 1/8th Quart Marvel Mystery Oil in Fuel Tank 3/4th full
5. Approx 4 oz 15W/40 in kiki fuel injection pump
6. Dumped light fuel filter residue, and maybe a little water? and replaced with the same filter
Wiring;
1. Bypassed safety relay (ignition 12v directly to the starter on key turn)
2. Cleaned ground, which is attached to 2240 QT loader that is bolted to the frame
3. Cleaned battery terminals
Parts;
1. Starter solenoid was not engaging or stuck, removed and wired directly to test battery, it unstuck and began to click.. He had replaced this and I have the old one with some damaged teeth.
2. Removed starter and tested for pop and spin. When activated on the test battery it popped and spun.
3. Reinstalled starter and solenoid
Issues:
1. Starter cranks and engine tries to start but never quite gets running
2. Bled screw above inline fuel filter, fuel came out
3. Loosened bleed screw on kiki injector pump and fuel came out solid after a bit of bubbles.
4. Loosened injectors #1 and #3, one at a time and closing afterward, then cranked to make sure fuel is flowing through them (injector #2, the middle) appears to flex a bit when trying to loosen it and I havent applied enough pressure to break the bolt and check for fuel.
What happens when I attempt to start:
1. Hold key to the left to heat glow plugs for 20sec until coil indicator glows on dash
2. Turn key to the right to start, with clutch engaged in neutral/neutral (Not necessary as relay is bypassed), and mid throttle
3. Starter engages and black exhaust comes out of the pipe as it turns over. It nearly gets to that running but doesnt quite get there.
Potential Problems:
1. Glow Plugs not actually getting hot?
> Maybe one or two work and it is trying to start on 1 or 2 cyclinders?
2. Battery not providing enough CCA?
> I can test this by running jumper cables from my truck battery? I have an x2 power battery from my truck spare in there now.. Less than 1 year old 880 CCA I believe.. A bit drained from trying to start.
3. Starter not providing enough power? I read a few ford owners with similiar models had to replace their starters often.
4. Still air in the fuel injector lines?
I am grateful for any help! This is my first post on the forum and I am a novice mechanic... I started working on my truck and tractors for the first time in my life thanks to forums like this and YouTube!
Tractor:
Early 80's Ford 1710
Cause:
Previous owner says there was a knock, he ran it low on oil and couldnt get it started after that. (Early 70s gentleman, his first and last tractor he said, he bought it 3 months ago.)
Fluids;
1. New WIX Oil Filter
2. Fresh 15W/40 cj4 - Just over 4.5 quarts
Added
3. Just under 1 Quart Marvel Mystery Oil added to oil
4. 1/8th Quart Marvel Mystery Oil in Fuel Tank 3/4th full
5. Approx 4 oz 15W/40 in kiki fuel injection pump
6. Dumped light fuel filter residue, and maybe a little water? and replaced with the same filter
Wiring;
1. Bypassed safety relay (ignition 12v directly to the starter on key turn)
2. Cleaned ground, which is attached to 2240 QT loader that is bolted to the frame
3. Cleaned battery terminals
Parts;
1. Starter solenoid was not engaging or stuck, removed and wired directly to test battery, it unstuck and began to click.. He had replaced this and I have the old one with some damaged teeth.
2. Removed starter and tested for pop and spin. When activated on the test battery it popped and spun.
3. Reinstalled starter and solenoid
Issues:
1. Starter cranks and engine tries to start but never quite gets running
2. Bled screw above inline fuel filter, fuel came out
3. Loosened bleed screw on kiki injector pump and fuel came out solid after a bit of bubbles.
4. Loosened injectors #1 and #3, one at a time and closing afterward, then cranked to make sure fuel is flowing through them (injector #2, the middle) appears to flex a bit when trying to loosen it and I havent applied enough pressure to break the bolt and check for fuel.
What happens when I attempt to start:
1. Hold key to the left to heat glow plugs for 20sec until coil indicator glows on dash
2. Turn key to the right to start, with clutch engaged in neutral/neutral (Not necessary as relay is bypassed), and mid throttle
3. Starter engages and black exhaust comes out of the pipe as it turns over. It nearly gets to that running but doesnt quite get there.
Potential Problems:
1. Glow Plugs not actually getting hot?
> Maybe one or two work and it is trying to start on 1 or 2 cyclinders?
2. Battery not providing enough CCA?
> I can test this by running jumper cables from my truck battery? I have an x2 power battery from my truck spare in there now.. Less than 1 year old 880 CCA I believe.. A bit drained from trying to start.
3. Starter not providing enough power? I read a few ford owners with similiar models had to replace their starters often.
4. Still air in the fuel injector lines?
I am grateful for any help! This is my first post on the forum and I am a novice mechanic... I started working on my truck and tractors for the first time in my life thanks to forums like this and YouTube!