Ford 3000???? Problems

[RickB]

well.. she ain't a 3000.

gear reduction rear ... and wet brakes.

heavy front bolster.. and that front axle ain't the 1939 design.. looks like some sort of industrial. I'm not up on all the 4 digit and 3 digit industrial variants.. but could be some sort of 3 digit industrial. front axle is deffinately not the ld fixed.. or the adjustable hd of a 4000 or a adjustable ld on a 39-65 00/01/2000/3000

a 445 is what really comes to mind... especially looking at front and back axle.

might want to bring in whodat and rickb on this.

Looks like a 4500 to me. Hard grille shell, straight axle, planetary finals with wet brakes. Factory alternator and CCW tach dial might make it a 445 except they had fully hydrostatic steering which this doesn't. Thinking a little more, it could be a 3550.

 

[Soundguy]

i missed the steering.. and I should have known it.. after i looked at some industrials last year.

 

[skitzboy]

So I cleaned out the transmission and it was filled to the top it looked like baileys Irish cream, kind of a tan so I opened the bottom drain and about two gallons of water came out followed by the tan mixture I started playing with the shift pattern and it is a 6 forward speeds and 4 reverse speeds with a high and low. So far all the parts I have gotten for the tractor have matched up when i ask for a ford 3000 part. The fuel pump, injectors and starter so far.

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[RickB]

So I cleaned out the transmission and it was filled to the top it looked like baileys Irish cream, kind of a tan so I opened the bottom drain and about two gallons of water came out followed by the tan mixture I started playing with the shift pattern and it is a 6 forward speeds and 4 reverse speeds with a high and low. So far all the parts I have gotten for the tractor have matched up when i ask for a ford 3000 part. The fuel pump, injectors and starter so far.

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Everything you have asked for would probably bolt up to 30 different models of Ford tractors. Some might even be correct. That isn't a 3000 and you can take that to the bank.

 

[Soundguy]

you had lots of oil/water emulsion in the trans.

i'd dump in some diesel and atf fluid and cheap flush utf oil plus a quart of 90% rubbing alcohol.. do a victory pass around the yard... just a short ride to slosh the mixture... then drain and refill with clean utf.

 

[whodat526]

looks to be a 4500 with a loader of a 4400

 

[skitzboy]

Can anyone decode the serial numbers and tell me what I have I would like five true appropriate manuals
Thanks
Craig

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[skitzboy]

Also what is a gear reduction rear end? I am guessing I am missing out on something that I have and don't realize or know how to use...
Thanks again,
Craig

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[Bigfoot62]

Also what is a gear reduction rear end? I am guessing I am missing out on something that I have and don't realize or know how to use...

Someone else will have to help you with the serial numbers. (may have to go to a dealer with that question)

As far as the gear reduction rear axle, some of the industrial tractors had those for very low speed (creeper) work, like trenching. Don't worry about it.

Definitely not a 3000. I agree it's an industrial tractor. Looks like a 4400 to me. Do a web search for "ford 4400 pics" and look for yourself.

 

[whodat526]

that could be part of your hard starting problem the injectors for a 3000 is set at a different pressure than a 4500 because a 3000 has a 4.2 bore piston and a 4500 has a 4.4 bore they have different tips in the bottom of the injectors but the injector shells are the same and will interchange

 

[MasseyWV]

Upon further review...... I took charcoal and rubbed it on top of the tabs the numbers are as follows


5C 315
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5021G
C138473 6E10

I've been trying to decode the numbers you provided but the model number doesn't seem to match anything I've been able to locate. If you take a clear picture of the numbers it might be helpful.

 

[Soundguy]

the gear reduction rear is simply the bulge you see at the axle trumpets... just the design.. inboard wet brakes and all.

3000 would have smaller trumpets and dry brakes outboard..

 

[Soundguy]

I've been trying to decode the numbers you provided but the model number doesn't seem to match anything I've been able to locate. If you take a clear picture of the numbers it might be helpful.

i agree.. he's mising a number or so inthere...

 

[Down South]

I eventually sand blasted the numbers on mine.
Boy did the numbers change.

DS

 

[Soundguy]

he really should continue to id this machine rather than keep buying parts for a 3000

he's eventually gonna pay cash for something that won't bolt up.. or if it does bolt up.. won't be correct..

can't wait for him to order a brake kit for a 3000

 

[stingray1]

he really should continue to id this machine rather than keep buying parts for a 3000

he's eventually gonna pay cash for something that won't bolt up.. or if it does bolt up.. won't be correct..

can't wait for him to order a brake kit for a 3000

I agree, I'd like to see the write up on that installation.:laughing:

 

[skitzboy]

Ok so I sanded the number plate it appears to be 45012G and it is a 4forward 4reverse transmission

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[skitzboy]

The 4 is added to the 5012G

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[skitzboy]

I called new holland this afternoon and got confirmation it is a 4500 industrial 1966. I confirmed also that the starter I bought for a 3000 will also work in a 4500 it actually works in 43 different ford/nh engines. I looked at tractordata.com and they only show a 63hp rating for the 4500 does anyone know what the drawbar rating is?

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[Opti-Mist]

I called new holland this afternoon and got confirmation it is a 4500 industrial 1966. I confirmed also that the starter I bought for a 3000 will also work in a 4500 it actually works in 43 different ford/nh engines. I looked at tractordata.com and they only show a 63hp rating for the 4500 does anyone know what the drawbar rating is?

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That would be 50 hp at the drawbar.