Ford 851 Restore II

[Soundguy]

there is no 132ci red tiger. there are 134, 144, 172, 192.

the later larger engines went to a larger tank.

I don't doubt that there is only 1 tank being made now. back then.. the smaller / older units used a lower volume tank.. that's why you have to watch what tank you have with what tin you have. the larger.. say.. 861 tank will have fittment problems witht he hood hinges on a 660.. etc.

the oil fill breather cap can be safely cleaned in a parts washer. same witht he media in the oil bath air filter.. many use a 5g bucket and diesel.. etc..


here is some block ID info. it's not all inclusive.. is missing some models and years.. but if you find your info here, it will be what it says it is:

Part number identifiers cast into 134 and 172 engine blocks (lower right side)
EAE 6015 - 134 1953-1957
EAF 6015 - 172 1953-1957
310905 - 134 1958-1959
310609 - 172 1958-1959
B9NN-6015C - 134 late 1959 early 1960
B9NN-6015A - 144D late 1959 early 1960
B9NN6015J - 172 late 1959 early 1960
B9NN6015B - 172D late 1959 early 1960
C0NN-6015G - 134 sleeveless late 1962-1964
C0NN-6015H - 144D late 1960-1964
C0NN-6015C - 172D-G late 1960-1964
C0NN-6015J - 172 late 1960-1964

soundguy

 

[Ford851]

Thanks for the info on the engine numbers. I'll check it out. I assume the right side is the distributor side. Driver facing forward.

I used the 132" from the Ford spec sheet on the tank literature. Assumed it meant cu. in. Thanks for the clarification.

Will report back. Off to see the wizard.

See ya,
Ford851

 

[Soundguy]

right side is the right side.

unless you are from the military.. then it might be your OTHER right side.

 

[Ford851]

Engine markings on the distributor side say EAF-6015 J or EAE-6015 J Hard to tell the E from the F on the rough casting. If I look at the numbers it looks like an F. If I feel the numbers with my finger nail it feels like and E. My eye sight is not what it used to be. Try to get my wife to put the eagle eye on it.

Think the J has any meaning?

Best regards,
Ford851

 

[Ford851]

Anyway this engine has been changed. Its not the 58 to 64 that I thought it was, but a 57 OMG I see a CONN J and a B9NN J and they are both Js
and both 172.

 

[Soundguy]

rub some grease over it, then run a pencil or some wood over it to nock the top of the grese off.. may bring it out. don't worry about the J.. the E / F is what you want to see.. it makes the difference in big or lil engine...

 

[Ford851]

This is the first time in my life that I wanted to get an F. I now clearly see its an F. Its an early 172.

The numbers on the tranny say 850 on top and the numbers under it are too faint to read for me. I'll try the grease trick on them also. Maybe it will improve the contrast.

Thanks,
Ford851

 

[Soundguy]

by the way.. that means you have an 850 not an 851.

not a heck of a lot of difference.. manifold.. carb.. air cleaner.. clutch and pinion spline.. depending.. brake cross shaft setup.. minor hp issue mostly related to carb and manifold.. etc.

for all intentts and purposes.. and 8xx is an 8xx... unless you ae buying parts or pulling on a dyno.

ps.. on them stamped numbers.. try white out or white crayon.. run crayon over to see #'s.. or rub white out on and then smear off.. ..

 

[Ford851]

Great to know about the 850 number. The decals on the side said "851" but even they were wrong. Will the real tractor please stand up.

Anyway, I jury rigged the tractor to fire it up. Had trouble hooking the battery up. The positive terminal sparked big time when I tried to connect it up to the battery. Found out that it was the lead going out to the alternator. Disconnected at the alternator. Cranked it over and nothing. Added a little gas because it had been setting for 4 months. Pulled the choke out, pulled on the gas and she fired the first time.
You can't beat that for reliability. :cool2:

Got some bad news about the diesel gas tank. The nearest person that does this kinda work is 60 miles away and they want 245 dollars US to clean this thing. Say what!!! Does this sound right?

Planning on painting the tractor below the battery cage, waiting till Friday for a part, installing the battery box and battery, installing new 4 post solenoid, and move the tractor to the back for a power wash on the sides and bottom.

Just opened the box for my new proof meter and found out that its for a 4 speed not a 5 speed. It has to go back. Yet another delay. In that time frame I'm going to work on the alternator and why its causing what looks like a grounding problem. This will get me thru the weekend.

Maybe out of touch for awhile. Having intermittent Hughes modem problems. Internet is on the edge.

Best regards,
Ford851

 

[Soundguy]

245$ oh my.

i'd wash it and line it or repair the old one.. or make one if I had to first!

alt line sparked?

either alt has a bad diode.. or the #1 line is hooked up tot he charge line instead of the #2 line hooked to the charge line..