Ford releases fuel numbers for the new F-150

[jejeosborne]

So now you are backtracking all your statements because you can't find any proof to back them up. Hilarious. My how your tune has changed in the last few pages.

Not backtracking at all. Show me where I made those statements. Why would I want to defend a statement I didn't make? I will stand behind all I have written. Any questions about what I have written are welcome. Make an exact quote that you disagree with and I will respond.

 

[jejeosborne]

I think some are upset about aluminum trucks because it will raise the price of aluminum, and they'll be spending more on their aluminum foil hats.

Funny.

I would never wear an aluminum hat knowing that steel foil has much greater resistance to hail and is much cheaper to repair.

 

[TomSeller]

I never claimed any "facts" like you did. You guys seem to make the same mistakes over and over. .

I was the one that first used the word "fact". Just pointing it out in case you made a mistake

 

[Ford850]

Then I read about how Ford is spending $10,00 for every dealership body shop to keep repair costs down so the cost to insure these trucks stays at least competitive with steel trucks. So after looking at the information available and comparing it to what folks like you, DP, and Tom have told us I came to a conclusion.

Can you provide some facts to back this up? What Ford actually said is that they "will subsidize 20 percent or up to $10,000 for training and equipment at U.S. dealerships to repair the truck's aluminum panels." They never said they are spending $10,000 for every dealership body shop.
Carry on with the bickering.

 

[tcartwri]

you guys done your christmas shopping yet.

 

[roadhunter]

Not backtracking at all. Show me where I made those statements. Why would I want to defend a statement I didn't make? I will stand behind all I have written. Any questions about what I have written are welcome. Make an exact quote that you disagree with and I will respond.

Good lord. Anyone can go back and see what you have written.

 

[roadhunter]

Can you provide some facts to back this up? What Ford actually said is that they "will subsidize 20 percent or up to $10,000 for training and equipment at U.S. dealerships to repair the truck's aluminum panels." They never said they are spending $10,000 for every dealership body shop.
Carry on with the bickering.

Laffin. You Ford guys are entertaining to say the least.

 

[roadhunter]

I was the one that first used the word "fact". Just pointing it out in case you made a mistake

Yes you were but you never did post any proof of the "fact". You guys make all sorts of claims like "Ford aluminum panels are stronger than steel panels" or "Ford F-150 aluminum body trucks are the cheapest 1/2 ton truck to insure". Then when asked for proof you never can produce anything legitimate. You answer was "it's a fact" and DP's answer was "well my insurance agent said so". Neither of those prove anything and are likely just things you made up. You would think you might have figured this out by now but the same thing still keep repeating itself. I'm sure today will be no different.

 

[jejeosborne]

Good lord. Anyone can go back and see what you have written.

You keep saying that. All I ask is for you to give me ONE example because I went back and couldn't find anything. This is your opportunity to hit a home run and totally redeem yourself.

Dumb and Dumber - Just When I Think You Couldn't …: http://youtu.be/zo-YVqV0v4Q

Batter up....

 

[jejeosborne]

Yes you were but you never did post any proof of the "fact". You guys make all sorts of claims like "Ford aluminum panels are stronger than steel panels" or "Ford F-150 aluminum body trucks are the cheapest 1/2 ton truck to insure". Then when asked for proof you never can produce anything legitimate. You answer was "it's a fact" and DP's answer was "well my insurance agent said so". Neither of those prove anything and are likely just things you made up. You would think you might have figured this out by now but the same thing still keep repeating itself. I'm sure today will be no different.

Did he just say "repeating itself"?

Someone needs to help him out of this viscous loop.

 

[roadhunter]

Did he just say "repeating itself"?

Someone needs to help him out of this viscous loop.
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I'm not the one making outrageous claims and then calling them facts. The issue here is the Ford fanboys exaggerations and half truths. You get really mad when asked for proof to back up your statements.

 

[roadhunter]

You keep saying that. All I ask is for you to give me ONE example because I went back and couldn't find anything. This is your opportunity to hit a home run and totally redeem yourself.

Dumb and Dumber - Just When I Think You Couldn't …: http://youtu.be/zo-YVqV0v4Q

Batter up....

I'm not the one who needs to redeem himself. I didn't make any outrageous claims. You keep trying to turn this around on me but I am not the one who said the body panels were stronger than steel panels, I'm not the one who said the aluminum f-150 is the cheapest half ton to insure, I'm not the one who said it was simple math. I have not make any claims and you have not proven me wrong about anything I have said. Not once.

OTOH you guys have made all sorts of claims and have failed to prove any of them. If you would like to redeem yourself, Tom, DP, etc.. feel free to post some links to prove the aluminum Ford is the cheapest 1/2 ton to insure, post actual proof of the aluminum body panels being stronger than the steel panels. You guys made the claims and now you can't find any proof to back them up. Pretty funny to watch you guys operate.

Here is one of your outrageous claims where you and DP are explaining how the aluminum f-150 is the cheapest 1/2 ton truck to insure. Notice how this is based on nothing more than your opinion and a supposed quote DP got from his insurance agent, not actual data. And again you use "simple math". But when asked about the simple math you can't show us any so called "simple math". Epic fail on proving your point, again. You just keep sticking your foot in your mouth when you make things up to make Ford look better. Sad really.

Outrageous claim, see below

Probably has to do with safety and having low cost parts. Simple business math really. More of them on the road which drives down parts cost. Highest rated safety pick through insurance Institute for Highway safety for 2014 also factors in.

 

[jejeosborne]

I'm not the one making outrageous claims and then calling them facts. The issue here is the Ford fanboys exaggerations and half truths. You get really mad when asked for proof to back up your statements.

I'll keep requesting what outrageous claim have I made.
Waiting......

 

[roadhunter]

Waiting?? I posted you quote in 412. Do you really think people can't read? It's right there. Pretending it isn't sitting 2 inches above your post is funny but we can all see your quote.

You were explaining how the aluminum f-150 was the cheapest 1/2 ton truck to insure. Do you have any actual proof of this? Anything other than you biased opinion? Anything?

 

[jejeosborne]

Here is one of your outrageous claims where you and DP are explaining how the aluminum f-150 is the cheapest 1/2 ton truck to insure. Notice how this is based on nothing more than your opinion and a supposed quote DP got from his insurance agent, not actual data. And again you use "simple math". But when asked about the simple math you can't show us any so called "simple math". Epic fail on proving your point, again. You just keep sticking your foot in your mouth when you make things up to make Ford look better. Sad really.

Finally an example. Please note that I started my post with "probably" not "fact" . You questioned why Diamondpilots insurance agent mentioned the f150 as being the cheapest to insure. I gave examples of why that might be and what typically affects insurance rates and then you apply simple math to arrive at a premium. To ease your mind, I suggest you get a quote from your agent and see if results differ. Your company may consider another make cheaper. Nobody called out the aluminum bodied version as his agent just said F150. Time will tell on the aluminum version but with the rates he was quoted, it doesn't look like rates have changed much.

I know your going to say this is old data (2012) but a quick search of the Web is all I have time for now.

Top 10 Cheapest to Insure 2012 Model Year Trucks and SUVs

 

[jejeosborne]

Waiting?? I posted you quote in 412. Do you really think people can't read? It's right there. Pretending it isn't sitting 2 inches above your post is funny but we can all see your quote.

You were explaining how the aluminum f-150 was the cheapest 1/2 ton truck to insure. Do you have any actual proof of this? Anything other than you biased opinion? Anything?

I posted 10 minutes later and now I wait....... I'm ready for your next example of one of my misquoted information.

 

[Zick]

Guys, stop feeding the troll.

 

[jejeosborne]

Guys, stop feeding the troll.

Yeah we probably shouldn't. Doesn't appear to digest properly and would hate to cause further damage.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Guys, stop feeding the troll.

I'm done!

Chris