Front End Loader on a 2WD Tractor?

   / Front End Loader on a 2WD Tractor? #31  
I just moved 75 yards of topsoil with mine in 2wd ... worked fine ?
 
   / Front End Loader on a 2WD Tractor? #32  
Gale, I did not know about the swamps in western KY until about a month ago when I was in Wingo, KY. Ever have any dealings with a Zetor dealer in the area, "Diesel Doctor"? Ken Sweet

My company ate my Zetor and two small farms in 1996 and I do not know the Diesel Doctor. The dealer in 1992 where I bought my was in La Center, KY.

With billions of gallons of spring water flowing each year and the area being like a pond in places (water that can not make it to the MS River) makes areas swampy. This huge amount of spring water means we have some creeks that never run dry as in right now after little rain for 3 months.
 
   / Front End Loader on a 2WD Tractor? #33  
My company ate my Zetor and two small farms in 1996 and I do not know the Diesel Doctor. The dealer in 1992 where I bought my was in La Center, KY.

With billions of gallons of spring water flowing each year and the area being like a pond in places (water that can not make it to the MS River) makes areas swampy. This huge amount of spring water means we have some creeks that never run dry as in right now after little rain for 3 months.

Gale, I have lived in KY all my life and I had it in my mind that "Western KY" was where all the Beans and Corn were raised. Must be the northern part around the Owensboro area? Ken Sweet
 
   / Front End Loader on a 2WD Tractor? #34  
SSHHH! You guys... my 5045D with 512 loader doesn't know it's supposed to be inadequate... if it hears you, it might lay down...:laughing:

Just kidding... but mine works like a CHAMP!

Jim in Texas
 
   / Front End Loader on a 2WD Tractor? #35  
A tractor with 2 wd and a front end loader will TEACH you correct loader operation. So many people buy a small tractor with 4wd and abuse it. They think that they are little dozers, and for a brief time they can be. But usually the loaders or tractors find a weak point and break. Or they get killed by doing something stupid with them.

A 2 wd tractor and front end loader will make you smarter...At least when it comes to tractor operation and safety.

Most people push and dig with the front end of the ground anyway. If you water down your backend,and further counterweight it, lock your differential, you'll never have a problem. Only one wheel pulls at a time on the front anyway, and its the one with the least amount of traction.
 
   / Front End Loader on a 2WD Tractor? #36  
A tractor with 2 wd and a front end loader will TEACH you correct loader operation. So many people buy a small tractor with 4wd and abuse it. They think that they are little dozers, and for a brief time they can be. But usually the loaders or tractors find a weak point and break. Or they get killed by doing something stupid with them.

A 2 wd tractor and front end loader will make you smarter...At least when it comes to tractor operation and safety.

Most people push and dig with the front end of the ground anyway. If you water down your backend,and further counterweight it, lock your differential, you'll never have a problem. Only one wheel pulls at a time on the front anyway, and its the one with the least amount of traction.

Both front wheels pull on my M8540.
 
   / Front End Loader on a 2WD Tractor? #37  
A tractor with 2 wd and a front end loader will TEACH you correct loader operation. So many people buy a small tractor with 4wd and abuse it. They think that they are little dozers, and for a brief time they can be. But usually the loaders or tractors find a weak point and break. Or they get killed by doing something stupid with them.

A 2 wd tractor and front end loader will make you smarter...At least when it comes to tractor operation and safety.

Most people push and dig with the front end of the ground anyway. If you water down your backend,and further counterweight it, lock your differential, you'll never have a problem. Only one wheel pulls at a time on the front anyway, and its the one with the least amount of traction.

The way you say this... you seem to be giving the impression that a 2wd is just as capable as a 4wd.

I'm not dissin 2wd... and I would not forgo a FEL just because I only had a 2wd tractor... but 4wd is A LOT more capable than a 2wd.

And to say that only one wheel pulls at a time in the front isn't quite telling the whole story (even without limited slip). Everything else being equal, when you are slipping in the front... you still are assiting a "little" which is more than "none" as in a 2wd. The front in a 2wd situation is dead weight and resistance/drag. Even in a slipping front situation in 4wd, the front is not a "drag" on the tractor. Even the wheel that is not slipping is still getting "some" power... and is helping. Unless one of the front wheels is off of the ground (not touching the ground), you are getting some help.

4wd tractors can lock their rear diff also... so it isn't like the 2wd has some advantage.
 
   / Front End Loader on a 2WD Tractor? #38  
I have seen a lot of CUT's with rear tires that cant compete with ag tires on a 2 WD. Lots of the 4 WD don't have fluid and calcium in the rears and usually no rear wheel weights.
A Jeep is a awesome machine and with all the 4WD that goes with it. My co-worker bought one new and kept bragging about what his Jeep could pull. I brought a 20 ft log chain from home 1 day and challenged him to a pull off in the parking lot with my 2 wheel drive C10 Chevy truck. I did have 500 lbs of weight setting over my rear axle. We had quite the crowd assembled and It was quite embarrassing, I pulled him 75 ft backwards and the little Jeep was digging on all fours and bouncing left and right. Ken Sweet
 
   / Front End Loader on a 2WD Tractor? #39  
I have seen a lot of CUT's with rear tires that cant compete with ag tires on a 2 WD. Lots of the 4 WD don't have fluid and calcium in the rears and usually no rear wheel weights.
A Jeep is a awesome machine and with all the 4WD that goes with it. My co-worker bought one new and kept bragging about what his Jeep could pull. I brought a 20 ft log chain from home 1 day and challenged him to a pull off in the parking lot with my 2 wheel drive C10 Chevy truck. I did have 500 lbs of weight setting over my rear axle. We had quite the crowd assembled and It was quite embarrassing, I pulled him 75 ft backwards and the little Jeep was digging on all fours and bouncing left and right. Ken Sweet

Seems like you are comparing apples to oranges.

Take two identical tractors: one 2wd and one 4wd. Then start the comparison.

The 2wd drive machine has filled ags? Well then, put filled ags on the 4wd... then start the comparison.

I'm sure your C10 would have lost against a K10 (everything else being equal)... with 500 lbs of weight sitting over its rear axle.
 
   / Front End Loader on a 2WD Tractor? #40  
Seems like you are comparing apples to oranges.


No, it was fair, he had 4 wheel drive and I was handicapped with only had 2 wheel drive. To made it even, I would have needed 4 WD and he could have added however much weight he wanted. Ken Sweet
 
 

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