Fuel Additives for Kubotas

[ovrszd]

I had to show my FIL the funnel too. Had to pour a cup of water in it as he is from Misery. Not one drop of water came out of it. I spilled the water out and filled up my tank. He bought two of them, not from me.

So that's what's wrong with you....... You married into Misery blood and can't keep up.......

 

[ovrszd]

I'm beginning to understand that the problem for us diesel users starts with not knowing what kind of diesel we are getting in the first place. I'm not sure that the diesel stations and vendors know either. It wasn't always like that around here. It used to be that the vendors would label their pumps. Nowadays labeling isn't so common. Yesterday I took the time to look around a few stations. It seemed to me that the best bet would be one of the independent small refinery/stations which we have a few of locally, so I stopped by one that I used to buy from. In years past, that station used to have pumps labeled as either #1 diesel or #2 diesel. Some also had a kerosene pump labeled 1-K.

What I found was no different than the name brand stations. The independent producer stations no longer label #1 or #2. They sell a lot of Diesel, but all their pumps are all simply labeled "Diesel Fuel"..... Which leaves me wondering just what is the mix they are selling in those pumps and what temperature is is good for? And is it treated in any way? With what? After some conversation, I've no idea and doubt if there is much of any way to find out. The people selling it don't have a clue. BTW, that particular station still sells 1-K kerosene. Kerosene is obviously different from diesel, though - and costs almost twice as much. They keep that pump and tank under a double roof .... for keeping water out?

The weather forcast says it's going to get cold this weekend. My curiosity got the best of me and I took some last summer fuel I had and made up a couple of fuel samples in clean ball jars. With luck we can see if untreated summer fuel clouds with wax - or not - and also if the sample with the JD winterizer has any effect.

Good luck beats good planning,
rScotty

Hey, anxious to hear the results of your test!!!!

I never trust a vendor to protect me from Gelling. I always treat my own fuel regardless what the pump says.

 

[murphy1244]

So that's what's wrong with you....... You married into Misery blood and can't keep up.......

Could be.....:laughing: I do have to show her everything...

 

[ovrszd]

Could be.....:laughing: I do have to show her everything...

That was uncalled for. Clever. But uncalled for..........

 

[murphy1244]

That was uncalled for. Clever. But uncalled for..........

My Bad.. sorry

 

[ovrszd]

My Bad.. sorry

No you're not

 

[murphy1244]

No you're not

A little...

 

[ovrszd]

A little...

You're just tryin to run up your post count......

 

[murphy1244]

You're just tryin to run up your post count......

Yea right,:laughing: like I need to do that...

 

[JWR]

I'm beginning to understand that the problem for us diesel users starts with not knowing what kind of diesel we are getting in the first place. I'm not sure that the diesel stations and vendors know either. ... used to have pumps labeled as either #1 diesel or #2 diesel. Some also had a kerosene pump labeled 1-K. ... people selling it don't have a clue. BTW, that particular station still sells 1-K kerosene. Kerosene is obviously different from diesel, though - and costs almost twice as much. ... rScotty

It's not really quite as complicated. The terms used 30 years ago are still accurate and very simple. "Number 2 fuel oil" is ordinary diesel fuel. Same thing as home heating oil exactly, no difference. Number 1 fuel oil" is also known as diesel #1 and Kerosene and 1-K and lamp oil and a few other assorted names. So you have #1 and #2 , that's it, the end. Beyond that simple situation you have low sulfur and ultra low sulfur and some degrees of bio-diesel variants, etc. plus whatever mysterious and never publicized (nor in my opinion believable) "winterization" that no one can depend on. I think VTForester gave us all some senior advice -- we should probably read his posts and ignore all 48 of the other posts on this topic. With current day low-sulfur fuel oil, the icing will take place earlier than gelling and most of the additives will take care of gel so we need to pay attention to additives that take care of the water too. And one more conclusion: older non-Tier n compliant engines readily tolerate mixing #1 and #2 for temps below around 14 or 15 degrees F. "Newer" engines (labeled Tier anything) are probably not safe to run a mix of #1 & #2. To me those few things summarize cold weather diesel fuel concerns and solutions.