garage door headroom challenge for lean-to

[Diggin It]

In order to make this project "sane" and keep it to a short timeline with minimal disruption to the main barn, I want to have the new lean-to tuck under an existing eave and not disrupt the current roof or make my framing complicated.

Some seem to have skipped over that part.

 

[EddieWalker]

If you build your walls the full height and tie the new roof into your existing roof, then you could easily go a lot wider then 12 feet. As it is, you will barely have enough room to open the doors to the vehicle once its inside there and absolutely no storage on either of the side walls. To me, walls are for shelves, and as much storage of stuff as possible. 16 feet wide would be my minimum width for a single car garage if I had the space available.

 

[pmsmechanic]

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[s219]

If you build your walls the full height and tie the new roof into your existing roof, then you could easily go a lot wider then 12 feet. As it is, you will barely have enough room to open the doors to the vehicle once its inside there and absolutely no storage on either of the side walls. To me, walls are for shelves, and as much storage of stuff as possible. 16 feet wide would be my minimum width for a single car garage if I had the space available.

Yeah, 12' would be borderline but OK for a small car (about 74" wide) -- I am thinking 14' is really a decent minimum for general usage. One benefit to 14' is that I could use 16' lumber for the rafters and get my 12" overhang .

 

[EddieWalker]

Saw your picture of your progress on the other thread about leanto's and was hoping you'd update this thread. How wide did you go?

 

[fried1765]

If you build your walls the full height and tie the new roof into your existing roof, then you could easily go a lot wider then 12 feet. As it is, you will barely have enough room to open the doors to the vehicle once its inside there and absolutely no storage on either of the side walls. To me, walls are for shelves, and as much storage of stuff as possible. 16 feet wide would be my minimum width for a single car garage if I had the space available.

I always love looking at your picture with "Oscar".
How is the old boy........Oscar I mean.

 

[s219]

Saw your picture of your progress on the other thread about leanto's and was hoping you'd update this thread. How wide did you go?

After a lot of deliberation I went 12' wide. I had planned for a 3:12 pitch roof, but when I marked the eave posts 3' down and notched them for the header beam (a double 2x10), I made the notches above the mark instead of below. I didn't discover that mistake until I cut my first rafter template and realized something was off. So the header beams are 9.25" higher than they are supposed to be, and the actual roof pitch is about 2.23:12 instead of 3:12.

This is a classic type of mistake for me. I had setup a new laser level to help me mark the posts. The mark was probably accurate to 1/32" but then I introduced 9.25" of dum-dum error when I notched on the wrong side of the line. And I had sistered the headers together with construction adhesive and lots of nails when mounting them to the posts, so they weren't coming off easily. I remember thinking how clever I was to use the laser and how the solid the headers were and "they'd never come apart". That's what I get for being smart and admiring my work....

Thankfully, I called the roofing company and they had no concern with the pitch for the shingles -- their minimum is 2:12, and in my climate ice dams are not a real concern (plus the barn is unheated anyhow). So I was able to adjust my plans for a unique 2.23:12 pitch and keep moving along.

 

[EddieWalker]

I always love looking at your picture with "Oscar".
How is the old boy........Oscar I mean.

He's 9 1/2 years old and started losing weight over the summer. We've increased his calories by giving him dry dog food, which he really enjoys, and that seems to be helping. Just guessing, he's probably under 500 pounds now, from a high of 550. His activity has increased lately, but it always does when it cools off. He loves winter!!!

 

[EddieWalker]

After a lot of deliberation I went 12' wide.

Are you still planning on parking a car in there?

Sometimes those mistakes lead to a better project in the end. I know it's happened to me more times then I want to admit, but I can only think of a few times where it was something that I had to tear apart and start over with. Usually once I realize I messed up, it's all worked itself out better then I had planned on.

 

[s219]

Are you still planning on parking a car in there?

Sometimes those mistakes lead to a better project in the end. I know it's happened to me more times then I want to admit, but I can only think of a few times where it was something that I had to tear apart and start over with. Usually once I realize I messed up, it's all worked itself out better then I had planned on.

I will put a small car in temporarily, but then this will become overflow storage for equipment from the main barn. I am going to build a formal double garage closer to my house for parking cars. I was hoping to start on that over the holidays, but the building permit got sidetracked by zoning rules, and I have a few more issues to work out before I can go ahead with that.

If I can get the garage permitted by spring I will move ahead, but if I am delayed into summer, I will postpone until fall 2020. Building during our humid summers is torture and my body is only at about 85% performance (and goes downhill fast). I did get the garage site cleared and graded, so when the time comes I can go straight to construction.

Sometimes I like to let projects wander a bit because they tend to come out better than if I planned them. I seem to have limited long distance vision with concepts, but when a project is underway I can see/feel it and have better ideas. I got lucky with this particular mistake and was able to roll with it after a dope-slap to the forehead.