Garage/pole barn blueprints

[Buzz_Sawyer]

Her is a totally FREE site for all kinds of blue print for sheds......
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http://www.public.iastate.edu/~mwps_dis/mwps_web/ut_plans.html#Anchor72044

 

[OkeeDon]

<font color="blue"> some municipalities require a actual blueprint to be filed before issuing a building permit. </font>

Our county, although rural and until recently about 100 years in the past, has been trying to drag itself into the twentieth century (it will be a while until they get to the 21st /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif). They now not only require blueprints for a pole barn, the design has to be signed off by an engineer.

 

[Gary_in_Indiana]

<font color="blue"> "the design has to be signed off by an engineer" </font>

Which railroad? <rimshot> /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[jmc]

Lunger,

Don't buy it yet. Here it is at your local library. (and 2 others)

Mid Hudson Library

Well, the link didn't come thru so just search for pole building construction on their site.

 

[v8dave]

Here is a plan company that provides lots of ideas for shops, garages and barns.
BGS Plan Co.
While they are here in Claifornia, they have an engineer certified in all 50 states. If the county you live in in New York requires a stamped set of plans--this place can get it for you.

If you like something on their web site. Call them and talk it over. They'll make changes fairly reasonably. I am not associated with this business except as a satisfied customer.

Here in El Dorado County, California, not only did I have to have a registered structural engineer signed off set of plans, I had to have a registered civil engineer measure the compaction of the fill and sign off on the cut and fill excavation work. The county then required me to have the civil engineer sign off on inspecting the foundation forms and re-bar installation before the concrete pour. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif Oh, and I had to have yet another engineer sign off on the septic/sewer plan.

So, even though I had a set of computer generated plans, all they were used for was to show the plan company what I wanted. I must admit though that the plan company plans contained substantially more detail than my "plans."

I'm building a 30'x50' shop with 10' walls and an arched truss roof to clear a 12' car lift in the center 1/3 of the building.

Lunger, PM me for more info if you want.

Dave

 

[neilly2]

I'm quite surprised at the suggestion that an experienced builder would start this project without plans.

My experience is that the more planned and detailed the plan the faster work goes and the less problems encountered. After jumping into things a few times without a good plan and winding up with a head scratcher that cost me time or money, I learned the value of planning.

For my personal projects I detail every one of them on AutoCAD. And they're detailed down to the fasteners. I even drew the family picnic table into AutoCAD. Then I have an easy time with the bill of materials and can easily generate a cut list. No running back to the supply house 7 times.

In fact, for my house addition and renovation, my plans were so clear that the building official let me go without an Architect or Engineer stamp on it. That alone saved me $2000. If I went in and told him "I've built it all, I don't need a plan" he would have laughed me out of his office.

Perhaps the poster is looking for architectural plans. Heck, I know how to build a garage, but when it comes to siding choices,shutters, and architectural flair, I run for cover. Maybe he is looking to run power and plumbing out there, or looking for a plan with some divided spaces (ie workshop, bathroom, welding booth). Again, when it comes to making spaces work, I have to hand it to Architects. This is one thing that they can do.

The poster lives in NY. He can't very well just put anything up. He needs to be concerned with snow loading and various code issues.

We all have our comfort zone, but I wouldn't scare the poster away from this project. It's do-able for anyone that knows how to swing a hammer, and needing plans isn't a signal to scrap the idea.

Not a very welcoming post to a new member.

 

[Slamfire]

Glen didn't say that there wouldn't be any plans, he merely said an experienced builder wouldn't need to purchase plans drawn up by some architect in order to build a pole barn of that size. I agree, When I was 12 my Dad did just that, although his barn was stickbuilt. He must have been pretty close with his bill of materials as he hauled a couple of logs to a sawmill and came home with enough lumber to frame the building. He used some insulating panels similar to homosote for siding and metal panels for the roof. When the job was done there was enough lumber left over to build a darned nice workbench along the north wall where he'd installed about 12' of continuous windows. If you find that cad planning your project helps you, have at it. But they didn't make home computers in the early 50s, so we were kinda stuck with the human brain. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif If I felt up to it, I could do the same thing starting tomorrow, but then the State of Tennessee hasn't crawled into bed with every professional organization that wants to make their consultations manditory. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Junkman]

could you please send me the plans for the family picnic table. That will save me some serious design time. I need to build at least two for the next family gathering. thanks.....
PS..... don't forget the materials list... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[neilly2]

They didn't have computers in the 50s but they did have T-squares and triangles so I would have drafted it by hand.

I don't think the poster is a sawyer like your dad may have been, so I don't see the correlation. The poster asked for specific help/information and I'll restate that it seems a little arrogant to suggest he's over his head for wanting a plan. In fact, I question the quality of these buildings that are being thrown up.

I assume that Junkman is busting my stones, but if you want the table plans give me an email address. The table will last you forever.

Having been on these boards for a few weeks, its becoming obvious what happens when newer members express opinions that the older members don't like.

 

[neilly2]

Hey Slamfire,

Would you disagree that (generally) a project with a detailed plan goes faster with less hassle, than a project with a sketch and a good idea?