Garage/pole barn blueprints

[Streetcar]

I totally disagree. A "draftsman" does not have a license and is probably doing this as side work because they don't have a license. An Engineer is a licensed professional and as such has a substantially higher overhead. License fees, continuing education requirements and insurance are all costs the draftsman does not bear.

The building needs designed so the engineer will charge their fee for that. With further thought, the engineer should be cheaper because draftsman plans may need significant revisions after the design is made

 

[jfh28]

Yep Jack.... my choice of the word "draw" was not a good one.
Probably hasn't been an earthquake in the area since sometime prior to the ice age.
30 psf roof loading is normal design for the area.
Though a Northern location, it is in a coastal area, so 140 mph gust rated trusses will be required.

yeah we haven't had an earthquake in that long either......but the code still requires that it be accounted for in the design......not california strong but accounted for in the connections and shear walls.......since you are in a coastal area you will need to talk to your local building official to see what wind loads you will need to use in the design as the wind map in the codes won't account for local variances.......and that 140 mph wind won't just be applied to the roof but also perpendicular to the wall.......which makes your front wall with the openings even more vulnerable to lateral loads......Jack

 

[fried1765]

yeah we haven't had an earthquake in that long either......but the code still requires that it be accounted for in the design......not california strong but accounted for in the connections and shear walls.......since you are in a coastal area you will need to talk to your local building official to see what wind loads you will need to use in the design as the wind map in the codes won't account for local variances.......and that 140 mph wind won't just be applied to the roof but also perpendicular to the wall.......which makes your front wall with the openings even more vulnerable to lateral loads......Jack

It appears that even the Simpson Strong Tie system will not work for a 17" or 18" wall section that is 11' tall.
I will likely change to the wall height divided by 3-1/2 calculation. That would mean front wall sections will need to be a minimum of 35" wide.
To keep overall length at 36' I will need to abandon the 3 door concept, and go to one 16' wide door, and one 10' wide door.

I find many code requirements to be absolutely absurd.
In the same town as the proposed garage; I own, and still use, the house I was raised in, a 288 year 28'x36' house that my parents bought in 1932.
Four main bowed rafters (they were ship builders), with purlins, and wide roof boards run vertically; rafters/collar ties pegged together.
It has stood proudly on the same open, windy, coastal hill for 288 years.
How many hurricanes has it been through?
I am thinking I should tear it down immediately,.... to build something safe .....TO CODE ..... OF COURSE !!!!

Oh..... and in 1730, the house was built from used (salt works) lumber.....not grade stamped SPF!
Scary, isn't it ???

 

[fried1765]

As I tried to imply in the previous post, I didn't intend for my reply to be demeaning or such. I believe that a person with reasonable knowledge or experience in construction can do this job with minimal outside guidance. If that is beyond the individual's capabilities they will probably be better off to hire the job done, as it is very easy to make costly mistakes. Whatever the situation is, I wish good luck to the poster in his project!

No COMPLETE (engineer stamped) set of plans?
Our local building inspector would laugh you right out of his office!

 

[prichard]

Our county got more strict recently - they now require you submit drawings on 8.5x11" paper. They originally told "drawings would be nice".

Now, this is for self-build, I'm sure they are a little more serious with contractors. I also have to get inspected and meet code but so far it has been contracted inspectors not the county inspectors and they barely look at anything.

 

[fried1765]

Our county got more strict recently - they now require you submit drawings on 8.5x11" paper. They originally told "drawings would be nice".

Now, this is for self-build, I'm sure they are a little more serious with contractors. I also have to get inspected and meet code but so far it has been contracted inspectors not the county inspectors and they barely look at anything.

A lot just depends on where you live.

 

[prichard]

Yes it does. It was a factor in buying this land. I knew I would build the house myself and wanted a county that is not a royal pain to deal with.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

You looking for framed building or post frame design?
Only your county can tell you if stamped plans are required. Once you have that info ( usually found online) then you know how to proceed.
In my are of MD, only trusses require a stamp. I designed, drafted my house, garage and barn plans.
Most post frame companies will provide stamped plans for around $300 fee.

 

[fried1765]

You looking for framed building or post frame design?
Only your county can tell you if stamped plans are required. Once you have that info ( usually found online) then you know how to proceed.
In my are of MD, only trusses require a stamp. I designed, drafted my house, garage and barn plans.
Most post frame companies will provide stamped plans for around $300 fee.

A framed building,..... in a coastal hurricane zone.
I need to use Simpson Strong Tie shear walls (or similar) for narrow front wall sections between overhead doors, to comply with gust load requirements.
It matters not what another other city or municipality may allow.
I must comply with my individual town requirements.
County has absolutely no jurisdiction.

 

[fried1765]

Yes it does. It was a factor in buying this land. I knew I would build the house myself and wanted a county that is not a royal pain to deal with.

I didn't get to make the location choice.
My parents made the choice in 1932 ......eight years before I was born.