Girls and guns

[dragoneggs]

As for hitting coins in the air. I saw my dad do it with both revolver and rifle.

I practiced a few thousand times and was able to do it with hulled black walnuts thrown by myself with my left hand into the air and the rifle was a Crossman pellet rifle I had as a kid. I was about 14 or so. It took hundreds if not thousands of throws to hit the first one. After that I got better and better, and could hit more than 50 percent of the time. I am not saying I can do it now. I really don't know if I can or not, or how long it would take to get back in the groove. By the time I was 14, where we lived then it was not safe to fire actual firearms into the air. The hitting of 50 cent pieces and silver dollar with rifles and pistols by my father was done in a much more sparsely populated area when I was younger. So I have no actual practice hitting objects in the air with an actual firearm except a shotgun. I can sure do that. I have seen videos of many persons hitting small objects thrown into the air with pistols, rifles and even arrows.

You are causing me to think back about Chuck Conners in the Rifleman! I related to his son Mark, on the show.

 

[Gunny]

Here was my inspiration for the aerial target practice.

A method of point shooting with a rifle was developed by Lucky McDaniel and taught by the US Army beginning in 1967. It was called "Quick Kill", and it was taught using an air rifle. The Quick Kill method was fully detailed in-step-by-step fashion in Principles of Quick Kill.[34] It was taught starting with a special Daisy BB gun that had no sights. The slow moving steel BB was visible in flight on sunny days, making it an inexpensive tracer round. The students began by firing at 3.5-inch (89 mm) diameter metal disks thrown in the air slightly in front of the student and 2 to 4 meters (6 ft 7 in to 13 ft 1 in) above the student's head. After an 80% hit rate is attained firing at these disks, the student is then presented with 2.5-inch (64 mm) diameter disks. Once proficiency is attained with the aerial targets, it shows the student has mastered the fundamentals, and training moves on to stationary targets on the ground, first with the BB gun and then with a service rifle having its front and rear sights taped over.
The reason the quick kill method works is that the shooter learns to sight above the barrel, rather than along the barrel. While focusing on the target, the muzzle is placed about 2 inches (51 mm) below the target (the distance being measured at the muzzle), which places the barrel nearly parallel to the line of sight of the shooter. To hit the aerial targets, or other targets above eye level, the shooter focuses on the top edge of the target. When shooting at targets on the ground or below eye level, the shooter focuses on the bottom of the target. One of the points emphasized in quick kill is that it is essential to focus on a single spot on the target, such as the top edge of a thrown disc, or the bottom edge of a can on the ground.
A key to hitting the target is to track the target by moving your head with the rifle seated against it. Do not just track it with your eyes.
The Daisy company commercially sold sightless BB guns and target throwers for a number of years under the name Quick Skill, along with an instruction book that was a demilitarized version of the aerial target portion of the "quick kill" course.

I went through that training during basic and it was pretty good training, I really enjoyed it and used a modified version of it to teach the grandsons when they got old enough to want BB guns.

I once heard Bill Knapp say that it didn't make any difference if it was the center of a coin or the center of an aspirin, they were both the same size. Aim small, miss small

 

[Knight9]

Can you outline the "hoops" you all need to jump through to get an RPAL license? And do gun dealers in Canada normally carry handguns for you to choose from, or do they have to be special ordered? What are the monetary implications of the license if any? Are there any inspections that the license opens you up to?

This is a decent summary:

How to legally buy a gun in Canada

 

[k0ua]

This is a decent summary:

How to legally buy a gun in Canada

Well it sounds fairly easy if expensive to buy a handgun, but you can't really use it for anything but target shooting. Not for personal defense.

Additional Notes on handguns and registration

This section is only applicable to those discerning connoisseurs of firearms who are interested in owning handguns, or other restricted firearms such as AR-15 rifles. You will learn this stuff (and more) in the CRFSC. You don't need to know this before you take the class but it's nice to know things in advance.
All restricted firearms must be registered. Licensing and registration are not the same thing. Even without a "long gun registry" all restricted and prohibited firearms must be registered. That means handguns, and even some kinds of long guns must still be registered.
Registration is a process that amounts to letting the RCMP CFP know who owns particular firearms and where they keep them. It happens automatically when you purchase an applicable firearm at a store. With a private sales the buyer and seller must call the RCMP CFP and initiate the transfer themselves. I find the calls tend to take about 10 minutes, they can answer any questions not covered in the CRFSC at that time too.
Neither an RPAL or an ATT (more on that in a minute) is an authorization tocarry a handgun, or any other firearm, either concealed or visible, in public or private.
In order to do that you need an Authorization To Carry (ATC, not to be confused withATT). Generally you will not be able to get an ATC, unless you have a job which requires it, such as guarding money.
Being worried that you'll be a victim of crime is not sufficient cause for theRCMP CFP to issue you an ATC.
It's not generally legal to shoot restricted firearms on private property (such as a farm or acreage) unless that property has an RCMP approved firing range.
As I said, you can't just carry your restricted firearms around with you, so how do you take them from your home to the shooting range? You'll need what's called and Authorization To Transport (ATT.) Notice the difference between Carry and Transport.
Transporting means you're taking a restricted firearm directly from the place it's registered at (eg. your house) to a location indicated on the ATT, such as an RCMP approved shooting range, gunsmith, or somewhere to sell it. You'll need to do so in accordance with the terms of the ATT you're issued, and with the general transportation requirements.
Basically that means the firearm must be unloaded, secured with a trigger lock (or similar,) be inside a locked container, which is then (if possible) in a locked trunk, with the ammunition also locked up. You must then proceed by the most direct reasonable means. So don't get any ideas about leaving your handgun in the trunk "just in case."
You will probably also need to belong to a gun club. It's my understanding that all Chief Firearms Officers (CFO) require you to be a member of a gun club in order to issue an ATT.
Since you can't shoot a restricted firearm pretty much anywhere except at an approved range they may require you be a member of one. Prices for gun club memberships range from very cheap to insanely expensive, so shop around

 

[oldpilgrim]

I went thru Army Basic Training in Feb-March 1967 and never heard of that technique.

 

[k0ua]

I went thru Army Basic Training in Feb-March 1967 and never heard of that technique.

I learned about it in some gun magazine at the time, and it intrigued me as a kid.

 

[Gunny]

I went thru Army Basic Training in Feb-March 1967 and never heard of that technique.

I went through in 1969, Fort Knox

I have read that it was a staggered implementation, so some places may have gotten it earlier, some later.

 

[oldpilgrim]

i was at Dix.

 

[SSdoxie]

My basic was at Ft. Bragg winter of 69-70. Was last class to train with M14, after qualifying with normal open sites they handed out what looked like modified yard sticks that snapped on the barrel and covered front and rear sites then had to qualify again.

As for "Girls and Guns"; My wife got us started on this a year ago. Christmas 2104 she surprised me asking for a carry gun she could keep close at hand in the house on nights when she was home alone, while I was working and to carry in the car. I bought her the first gun and knowing I wanted to shoot some too while she practiced bought my first hand gun. Now we have 3 hobbies we enjoy together - practice and plinking on the pistol rang I built at home, fishing, and hitting the sporting goods stores when bored and weather is bad. Only problem is the sporting goods and gun show trips are starting to tally up money wise. We have gone from only a couple shut guns her Dad gave me to 10 pistols (5 for each of us) and 2 lever actions. Both took our Carry Permit training and do CC. It is more a hobby we both enjoy.

 

[ch1ch2]

My 3 older daughters had lots of practice shooting pests (mostly ground squirrels) on the farm. They all have their CCW permits now.

My youngest 14 year old daughter got her first mule deer last year. She used a Browning 243 WSSM.

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