GM trucks have slipped

5030 · Oct 17, 2019

I see the UAW and GM have settled the strike. Still has to be ratified by the rank and file though. I'm sure GM corporate will increase the cost per vehicle to cover their costs. Probably jump a couple grand per unit. I see the 100 grand vehicle coming down the pike now.

Sometimes I winder what the tipping point will be, where they become unaffordable.

atsah · Oct 17, 2019

5030 said:
Sometimes I winder what the tipping point will be, where they become unaffordable.

My local dealer had a couple of 80K trucks, they sat for months, he had to trade with other dealers out west to get something he could actually sell, the tipping point is upon us already..

Ford850 · Oct 17, 2019

atsah said:
My local dealer had a couple of 80K trucks, they sat for months, he had to trade with other dealers out west to get something he could actually sell, the tipping point is upon us already..

Remember when an 80K truck meant it had 80K miles? Ah, the good ole days.

5030 · Oct 17, 2019

Ford850 said:
Remember when an 80K truck meant it had 80K miles? Ah, the good ole days.

I do. Today, it refers to cost.

I will say that with creative financing anything is possible but I'll also say that to be 'indentured' to a payment book for an item that depreciates instead of appreciates is very foolish but then people think emotionally when it comes to vehicles.

I always chuckle when I read a comment about how someone 'loves' their vehicle. Why would anyone want to love a vehicle in as much as it's a machine and it cannot return in kind. I buy all my vehicles based on need and why I only buy off lease.

I love my wife, my son and my dog. Everything is looked at as an object that performs a certain task and nothing more.

MossRoad · Oct 17, 2019

Ford850 said:
Remember when an 80K truck meant it had 80K miles? Ah, the good ole days.

That made me laugh! :laughing: :thumbsup:

MossRoad · Oct 17, 2019

5030 said:
I do. Today, it refers to cost.

I will say that with creative financing anything is possible but I'll also say that to be 'indentured' to a payment book for an item that depreciates instead of appreciates is very foolish but then people think emotionally when it comes to vehicles.

I always chuckle when I read a comment about how someone 'loves' their vehicle. Why would anyone want to love a vehicle in as much as it's a machine and it cannot return in kind. I buy all my vehicles based on need and why I only buy off lease.

I love my wife, my son and my dog. Everything is looked at as an object that performs a certain task and nothing more.

See, that's thing with me. While I love my humans and animals, I also have a great fondness for some machinery. I usually crack a smile when I'm on my tractor each time I change implements without getting off the seat. I get a nice, calming sensation when I'm in my Suburban or Impala. I find myself putting my hand out the open window and caressing the A pillar. Sometimes I reach up and run my hand over the dash board softly a few times and say "good car". At my last job of 30 years, they outsourced production and I actually shed tears on the last day and gave my babies some pats because I knew they were going to the scrapper. I treated those machines with love and care, and they provided me with a good living, and made the bacon for a few hundred other folks as well.

I knew a lot of guys that would get downright irate at machinery. Just go ballistic. I had a mentor when I first started there that told me this....

You run a machine, don't let it run you.

That holds true to about everything. Machines. Appliances. Computers, etc.... so if you treat them the way you want to be treated, you'll end up being less frustrated and much happier in life.

While I know they are not alive and are incapable of feelings, I still have a fondness for certain machines. I'm certain the negative energy you put into a machine comes back to harm your overall piece of mind in the long run...

5030 · Oct 17, 2019

Not I Mossy, not I. I maintain them properly and don't abuse them but love them, no way. Sometime, 'caress' a hot exhaust manifold and tell me it 'feels good'......

Industrial Toys · Oct 17, 2019

I THANK my GMC everytime it gets me home after a long day on the road. Anything else, I don't know, or am not sure about. The FACT, that IT got me home, isn't lost on me.

Same for a sucessful day operating tractors, they too get my Thanks.

dalola · Oct 17, 2019

5030 said:
I always chuckle when I read a comment about how someone 'loves' their vehicle. Why would anyone want to love a vehicle in as much as it's a machine and it cannot return in kind. I buy all my vehicles based on need and why I only buy off lease.

I love my wife, my son and my dog. Everything is looked at as an object that performs a certain task and nothing more.

People generally "love" things that bring them joy and make them feel happy. There are many kinds of "love", as most would agree. Certainly most will love a spouse differently than a car. But I would question denying yourself that emotion just because it's coming from an inanimate object. Not an existence I would choose, fo sho.