GM trucks have slipped

[5030]

I see the UAW and GM have settled the strike. Still has to be ratified by the rank and file though. I'm sure GM corporate will increase the cost per vehicle to cover their costs. Probably jump a couple grand per unit. I see the 100 grand vehicle coming down the pike now.

Sometimes I winder what the tipping point will be, where they become unaffordable.

 

[atsah]

Sometimes I winder what the tipping point will be, where they become unaffordable.

My local dealer had a couple of 80K trucks, they sat for months, he had to trade with other dealers out west to get something he could actually sell, the tipping point is upon us already..

 

[Ford850]

My local dealer had a couple of 80K trucks, they sat for months, he had to trade with other dealers out west to get something he could actually sell, the tipping point is upon us already..

Remember when an 80K truck meant it had 80K miles? Ah, the good ole days.

 

[5030]

Remember when an 80K truck meant it had 80K miles? Ah, the good ole days.

I do. Today, it refers to cost.

I will say that with creative financing anything is possible but I'll also say that to be 'indentured' to a payment book for an item that depreciates instead of appreciates is very foolish but then people think emotionally when it comes to vehicles.

I always chuckle when I read a comment about how someone 'loves' their vehicle. Why would anyone want to love a vehicle in as much as it's a machine and it cannot return in kind. I buy all my vehicles based on need and why I only buy off lease.

I love my wife, my son and my dog. Everything is looked at as an object that performs a certain task and nothing more.

 

[MossRoad]

Remember when an 80K truck meant it had 80K miles? Ah, the good ole days.

That made me laugh! :laughing: :thumbsup:

 

[MossRoad]

I do. Today, it refers to cost.

I will say that with creative financing anything is possible but I'll also say that to be 'indentured' to a payment book for an item that depreciates instead of appreciates is very foolish but then people think emotionally when it comes to vehicles.

I always chuckle when I read a comment about how someone 'loves' their vehicle. Why would anyone want to love a vehicle in as much as it's a machine and it cannot return in kind. I buy all my vehicles based on need and why I only buy off lease.

I love my wife, my son and my dog. Everything is looked at as an object that performs a certain task and nothing more.

See, that's thing with me. While I love my humans and animals, I also have a great fondness for some machinery. I usually crack a smile when I'm on my tractor each time I change implements without getting off the seat. I get a nice, calming sensation when I'm in my Suburban or Impala. I find myself putting my hand out the open window and caressing the A pillar. Sometimes I reach up and run my hand over the dash board softly a few times and say "good car". At my last job of 30 years, they outsourced production and I actually shed tears on the last day and gave my babies some pats because I knew they were going to the scrapper. I treated those machines with love and care, and they provided me with a good living, and made the bacon for a few hundred other folks as well.

I knew a lot of guys that would get downright irate at machinery. Just go ballistic. I had a mentor when I first started there that told me this....

You run a machine, don't let it run you.

That holds true to about everything. Machines. Appliances. Computers, etc.... so if you treat them the way you want to be treated, you'll end up being less frustrated and much happier in life.

While I know they are not alive and are incapable of feelings, I still have a fondness for certain machines. I'm certain the negative energy you put into a machine comes back to harm your overall piece of mind in the long run...

 

[5030]

Not I Mossy, not I. I maintain them properly and don't abuse them but love them, no way. Sometime, 'caress' a hot exhaust manifold and tell me it 'feels good'......

 

[Industrial Toys]

I THANK my GMC everytime it gets me home after a long day on the road. Anything else, I don't know, or am not sure about. The FACT, that IT got me home, isn't lost on me.

Same for a sucessful day operating tractors, they too get my Thanks.

 

[dalola]

I always chuckle when I read a comment about how someone 'loves' their vehicle. Why would anyone want to love a vehicle in as much as it's a machine and it cannot return in kind. I buy all my vehicles based on need and why I only buy off lease.

I love my wife, my son and my dog. Everything is looked at as an object that performs a certain task and nothing more.

People generally "love" things that bring them joy and make them feel happy. There are many kinds of "love", as most would agree. Certainly most will love a spouse differently than a car. But I would question denying yourself that emotion just because it's coming from an inanimate object. Not an existence I would choose, fo sho.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Show me someones "unconditional love" and I will prove it as otherwise.

 

[Shaneard]

Show me someones "unconditional love" and I will prove it as otherwise.

John 3:16

 

[Industrial Toys]

Can't have this conversation unless someone whos how Beliefs and Belief systems govern or lives.

 

[Shaneard]

Can't have this conversation unless someone whos how Beliefs and Belief systems govern or lives.

Carry on.

 

[MossRoad]

Not I Mossy, not I. I maintain them properly and don't abuse them but love them, no way. Sometime, 'caress' a hot exhaust manifold and tell me it 'feels good'......

It wouldn't be hot if it didn't love me.

hahaha... :laughing:

I really did enjoy working with my machines at my old job. In particular, the laser typesetters. I had a boss that couldn't get one of them to load film one night. He tried for an hour, and finally called me in from home. I walked in and he was just angry as heck. Stupid machines. I hate these things, etc.... I walked over, re-loaded the film can just as he did numerous time, looked my boss directly in the eye as I gave the machine a big kiss on the control panel while asking it "Is he being mean to you?" hit the LOAD button, and away she went. My boss looked me in the eye, turned around, went to his office, got his coat and went home without saying a word. :laughing:

 

[Industrial Toys]

Can't say I have ever kissed a machine. Makes me think of that movie "west world". Just saw when looking for a clip, that's it's another good old thing recently hijacked, to be ruined.

 

[MossRoad]

I am also very fond of my pocket knife that I carry daily, a couple old hammers bring great joy, an old rowboat, the steps to my deck (the first set of steps I ever built, and they turned out just right). I feel closer to those things than most people. :laughing:

Wife and kids, in-laws, siblings and a few friends would get preferential treatment over the tools and toys, but they are about it. :laughing:

 

[MossRoad]

Can't say I have ever kissed a machine. Makes me think of that movie "west world". Just saw when looking for a clip, that's it's another good old thing recently hijacked, to be ruined.

Yeah West World, followed by Futureworld.

Futureworld - Wikipedia

 

[ovrszd]

Not I Mossy, not I. I maintain them properly and don't abuse them but love them, no way. Sometime, 'caress' a hot exhaust manifold and tell me it 'feels good'......

I reread Moss post. Not once did he say he loved his machines. I thought he did a very good job of describing the same fondness I feel for my machinery. I too believe that is recipricated back to me in mental health.

 

[ovrszd]

Show me someones "unconditional love" and I will prove it as otherwise.

Sometimes we need to learn from our pets. My old farm dog Willard loves me unconditionally.

 

[ovrszd]

Carry on.

I think you touched him
So much that his response was irrational. Good job.