GM trucks have slipped

[5030]

Normally I like gadgets. I like the step on the fords. It is really useful for someone with bad knees like me. That GM tailgate looks like a disaster.

Bends easily as well. Basically paper mache. Ford isn't much better nor is FCA. All about building than as light as possible.

 

[ultrarunner]

I'm thinking my average is more than 40+ years but this includes my 114 year old car and plenty from the teens and twenties. Lots of perfect metal going to scrap due to failed emmissions which test 1976 and newer

 

[5030]

I'm thinking my average is more than 40+ years but this includes my 114 year old car and plenty from the teens and twenties. Lots of perfect metal going to scrap due to failed emmissions which test 1976 and newer

Glad that is a non issue here. If it was, I'd be recycling a bunch of iron. I remember way back when punching catalytic converters with a pipe to bust the substrate and then starting the motor and flooring it to blow the junk out the tail pipe.

In reality, a bunch of perfect metal went to scrap with Obama's cash for clunkers too. Another failed gummit program.

 

[two_bit_score]

The average age of a car on the road in Maine is 11.2 years. That means half of the cars you see in Maine are older that 11.2 years. So if you see 1000 cars in a day, 500 of them were over 11.2 years old. You said you don't hardly see any cars over 10 years old, yet half of them that you see are well over 10 years old. You just don't notice it, probably for a few reasons.... 1. they all look the same due to safety constructions and aerodynamics. 2. they rust much less due to better corrosion inhibitors. 3. where they do rust is usually covered with plastic, like bumpers, rear quarters, rocker panels, etc...

An “average” doesn’t necessarily mean half are above and half are below a certain number. That would be the “median” number.
“The median is the middle point of a number set, in which half the numbers are above the median and half are below.”


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[KennyG]

An “average” doesn’t necessarily mean half are above and half are below a certain number. That would be the “median” number.
“The median is the middle point of a number set, in which half the numbers are above the median and half are below.”


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And when it's in a news report you have no idea what it really is since most reporters don't know the difference between average, median and mean.

 

[Cat_Driver]

I hated Ford vehicles and didn't know why, so I purchased everything but a Ford. Then I purchased a low milage Ford gas work truck with a contractor body and lumber rack. I had several other vehicles for my business from various manufactures including a Mercedes Sprinter deliver truck.

The GMC dually with a Duramax overheated from day on but service manager said " that's normal for a diesel". The Sprinter I had to buy twice - once buying the vehicle then again in spending almost as much in repairs.

As the years went on I realized the good ole Ford work truck just kept running never in the shop once. I treated the Ford poorly never paid any attention to it, only serviced it when I felt like it using whatever oil was around the shop. Don't recall that I ever changed the air filter never changed the fuel filter.

I picked up a 2019 For Lariet diesel crew cab, that rides and drives like a luxury vehicle and I sure get looks when I took 40 loads to trash, brush, debris to the dump with my 16' Dump trailer. Had it almost a year now and not a single problem whereas the Sprinter was towed to the dealer several times in the first year of ownership.

Again the Sprinter was a Mercedes, know as the best of the best and it was the worst vehicle I have ever owned. I mean even the oor hinges failed on the Sprinter, the roof leaked, the belt pulley failed, the Ac failed, tranny leaked, fuel injectors failed, gear shifter failed, sliding side door failed, turbo failed, EGR valve failed, and more that I've forgotten.

I dumped the GMC dually because of the overheating.

 

[ovrszd]

Sadly, in human nature, we tend to properly service the best vehicle the worst.

 

[5030]

You never want to get in an accident with a Sprinter. The entire body and chassis is welded together. You get in a wreck it costs a huge amount to get them fixed.

 

[Cat_Driver]

You never want to get in an accident with a Sprinter. The entire body and chassis is welded together. You get in a wreck it costs a huge amount to get them fixed.

Funny story about that. During a wind storm a fiberglas tonneau Cover blew off of the truck next to me and left a 24" dent right behind the drivers door. My insurance came out to give me an estimate because the driver left the scene. I had $1,000 deductable and my insurance coincidentally said I had $900.00 in damage so buh bye we can't help you.

They found the guy because I took a photo of him driving away and his insurance came out they gave an estimate of $3,500.00, and paid me within a week.

Needles to say I dumped my insurance the next day.

I never did get it fixed just kept the $3,500.00 to set aside for any upcoming repairs on that hunk of junk.

 

[Jstpssng]

I like the GM bumper corner steps as you can use them when a trailer is hooked up.

Those are nice even without a trailer. I also have a headache rack with of 1 1/2" square tubing going the length of the bed, which is great for a 3 point handhold when climbing in and out of the bed.

The average age of a car on the road in Maine is 11.2 years. That means half of the cars you see in Maine are older that 11.2 years. So if you see 1000 cars in a day, 500 of them were over 11.2 years old. You said you don't hardly see any cars over 10 years old, yet half of them that you see are well over 10 years old. You just don't notice it, probably for a few reasons.... 1. they all look the same due to safety constructions and aerodynamics. 2. they rust much less due to better corrosion inhibitors. 3. where they do rust is usually covered with plastic, like bumpers, rear quarters, rocker panels, etc...

Now it's the frames or unibodies which fail.