Got Ambushed Last Night and Shot!

[Defective]

Why is the use of deadly force only treated as a capitol offense when it succeeds?

 

[Soundguy]

I remember a video about Japanese office chicks training self defense with a plastic folder. They were ramming it up towards the throat and I am just mentioning it, because everything can be a weapon if used that way.

When I think of it I hurt myself many times with tools and objects that were never meant to be a weapon either

If I had a dollar for every time I put a slipped screwdriver into my hand.. well... $$$$

soundguy

 

[pitt_md]

All I would like to add to this discussion is some practical sense. At my place, I have some tempting buildings and vehicles. I have dogs, big guns and small guns. But....

You need to practise your response options. I have rehearsed quite a few daytime and nighttime situations. I come home, "they" are wandering around. I am home, "they" start wandering around. I am home at night, full moon, the dogs light up. Where are shoes, shirt, flashlight, gun, ammo, what lights to turn on or off, which door to exit, what path to take. what stuff will I hit or puncture, any neighbor homes gonna get hit, where is shooting position, etc. I'm telling you you need to scout out your own place to see and hear and practice your confrontation. How to throw down a flashlight to shine them without having them shoot you. Where is a blanket (to throw over one of them after getting them down, where are tie-wraps to contain them (best is one on each arm, then one between each tie-wrap, then one from arms to a leg.

You also need to practice shooting your weapon at night and daytime. How loud is it? what is flash, kickback, one or two hands, aimed or pointed, and at what. What to say, what not to say, how loud to yell it, how to detect how many of them there are, find their vehicle first and disable it. How to strike their fuel tank after a getaway. Flatten tires or start on fire. Where is my lighter.

In my case, a Remington 870 in buckshot being racked up is the loudest recognizable sound that criminals know almost by instinct. If your gonna rack the action, have the right shells, have a flare round on hand, set one off occasionally and approach a stranger with a question: You live here, Pal?

If the answer comes back wrong, a weapon, a subdue, a detainment and a phone call all have to be done. (well maybe phone call is optional, there's always Miss Dig). Still, on a moonlit night, go out and burglarized your own place. You'll at first be horrified at what is there: vehicles with keys, tools, shed unlocked, motion sensors not working, dogs not cooperating, gates hard to open, tripped over a shovel handle (what idiot left that there?). Family member(s) not cooperating or too nosy and loud, Vehicle not ready to chase culprit with, and I'm too tired to worry about it.

The time is NOW. Make sure the judge only gets to hear your side of the story if it comes to that. No warning shots, no sympathy, aim for guts and finish it off. They are they to terrorize you. Don't fall for the female decoy.

Experience is a hard teacher. There are billions of replaceable people in this world, Just think of them as lemons.

Please don't shoot the neighbor's dog, though. That's a real crime.

This seems like extream paranoia at work.
You may one day read about me being shot to death, but I choose to live my life without living in fear. It might be that I live in MN where the weather will keep most of the scum away.

 

[pitt_md]

I got no probelem with the next guy not wanting to own a gun.. What I got a problem with is the non gun owners wanting to impose their will on me...

Like I said.. they don't feel warm and fuzzy with a gun.. no problem.. just keep 911 on speed dial and be ready to go fistacuffs with the guy that breaks in to kill your familly.. either that or start pleading with them... me... I'll feel MUCH safer with my 'theif dispatcher' ready to go... no begging or pleading needed

soundguy

I love it! You have a way with words or the lack there of...

 

[pitt_md]

actually I have shot snakes several times with a pistol. I have a nice 22 auto that i use for that. I dont shoot for the head I shoot for the body then when it can not crawl off wait and shoot the head. Although the majority of the time I shoot them with my 410 gauge shotgun. Either way the last shot is in the head and I dont worry too much when it is either totally missing or pretty well most of it gone. I still put them in the trash with a stick or shovel or something like that. I also dont shoot non poisonous snakes. If they are no threat to me I leave them alone.

I am such a poor shot with a hand gun its just plain sad. I caught a coon in the duck pen one night and at about 10' away I finally hit it with the sixth shot. I don't even bother with it any more. My choice of farm/personal protection is a Rem. 870 wingmaster.

 

[pitt_md]

Not sure if you could buy a plane without having to show you can use it. Never bought one so could not say on that.

Yes you can buy a plane without a license. I used to work on general aviation planes (Avonics Tech) and had a farmer come to pick up his plane that I had installed lots of equipment in. I didn't think to ask if he had a license but it became obvious when he shouted over the blaring stall warning horn "Why does that **** horn go off when ever I take off?"

 

[Soundguy]

This seems like extream paranoia at work.
You may one day read about me being shot to death, but I choose to live my life without living in fear. It might be that I live in MN where the weather will keep most of the scum away.

Simply owning a gun, and knowing how to safely use it, when needed, especially in crisis or disadvantaged situations is not paranoia.. is calle dbeing well prepaired.. perhaps more well prepaired than the average sheep out on the street.. but prepaired still. Having those skills and mindset, and the implements with which to put them in use does not constitute living in fear. I frankly find it offensive that you infer that those with guns that are prepaired to use them, if needed, are living in fear... We are rather simply.. prepaired.

I kinda wish that all the people that were afraid of guns ( or disliked guns).. or afraid (d/l) of their law abiding neighbors guns.. perhaps they could post big 'NO GUNS AT THIS HOUSE' signs up.. for a few months that would probably at least cut down on the gun owners houses getting broke into.. and would probably up burglers survival rates quite a bit... ( actually.. I like the criminals to have to guess which house has the gun.. just one more chip against them... )

soundguy

 

[Soundguy]

I am such a poor shot with a hand gun its just plain sad. I caught a coon in the duck pen one night and at about 10' away I finally hit it with the sixth shot. I don't even bother with it any more. My choice of farm/personal protection is a Rem. 870 wingmaster.

They make shotsheels for those wheelguns..

soundguy

 

[Dr_Zinj]

SURPRISED MY AXS!

Wasn't a typo, he had to try to get around the profanity filter on the site.

Probably meant surprised his a_$_$.


Someone who would victimize a military vet, a disabled one at that, and even when armed, run away because their victim is too much for them is both a coward, and an idiot, in addition to being a subhuman animal.

My only regret is Double OO didn't get the opportunity to break the guy's neck.

Hope things are looking better for you Double OO.


Dr_Zinj
MSgt USAF (Ret)

 

[unreconstructed]

I forget the exact quote:

An armed man is a citizen.

An unarmed man is a subject.