Gov't mandates gas can flame arrestors.

[Jstpssng]

Accidents with gasoline are a major cause of thermal burns in the U.S. It has been reported that gasoline-related burns account for 13,000 – 15,000 ED visits per year. According to the United States Fire Administration, there were an estimated 463 burn injuries caused by the misuse of gasoline in 1998. However, since USFA data are based on reports of incidents to which fire departments responded, they do not include injuries where those sustaining burns from gasoline were transported directly to hospitals by other means. Since injury statistics are organized according to numerical code sets which lack a separate code for gasoline as a cause of burn injury, the total number of such injuries is unknown. However, such injuries can be very severe, as is evident in their frequent transfer for treatment at one the nation’s 125 specialized burn care facilities. In the USFA report, about 80% of the victims were males and the incidence was remarkably well distributed by age (with a spike at age 30) from birth until about age 45. At that age, incidence drops off considerably and remains low through older

A bit outdated perhaps, but it was the first thing which came up in a search.

http://ameriburn.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/gasolinesafetyeducatorsguide.pdf#:~:text=Accidents%20with%20gasoline%20are%20a%20major%20cause%20of,off%20considerably%20and%20remains%20low%20through%20older%20age.

 

[ruffdog]

Do you need a spark arrestor if you double bag?

 

[Jstpssng]

Do you need a spark arrestor if you double bag?

That's one way to get around the new nozzles.

 

[shooterdon]

Do you need a spark arrestor if you double bag?

And they breed....

 

[aebsmithcreek]

I have had plastic screens on some of my Gerry cans for years, guys are getting their knickers in knots over nothing. The added benefit to the "flame arrestors" is it keeps dead flies and crud from inside your cans getting into your machinery fuel tanks.

BTW my 151 proof rum has a flame arrestor screen, my life hasn't turned upside down because of its presence.

Go back to worrying about secret microchips in medical vaccines.

I can't speak for anyone but myself but to me the screen is a secondary issue, the primary issue is the over regulation that has become rampant in the U.S. Think about it, with all that is going wrong in this country and they are taking time to regulate gas cans? really? I hope our governor tells them where to go and someone in state starts making old fashioned gas cans and they make a fortune selling them to out of staters who are tired of living in a nanny state.
As already stated you can't legislate stupid and natural selection is going to bite some butts every year. For myself and the good of the country I KNOW the elected need to worry about the business of legitimate problems and people injuring or killing themselves with gas cans is not high on the priority list of the problems we face. Another man bun wearing @&& that is living proof that a person can be educated beyond their intelligence coming up with some bs problem to convince his equally over educated cronies how enlightened and needed he ( or she ) is to keep the great unwashed masses safe from theirselves.

 

[aczlan]

Because you don't know any better, so why would you nix something that possibly saved your FIL or your other relative? I'm curious though, what happened so that you knew by single digit age, not to use gasoline, and did you know why?

1. My relative got his face burned and I was made aware that it was from mixing gas and fire
2. My Grandfather was a fire chief and he drilled it into Dad who drilled it into me.
In short, education.
I didn't perhaps know the why at a single digit age, but I knew that I was never to use gasoline to light a fire because there was a significant chance that an explosion would result.

This is a perfect example of lack of knowledge. Why did your relative risk it? They didn't think they were risking it. They thought the 15-20' took all the risk away. They're not stupid, or lacking common sense or whatever, they just didn't have that specific knowledge about just how resilient fuel vapors can be even outside.

Exactly, a lack of knowledge was the root cause. Additionally, it was a empty or almost empty can which is more dangerous than a full one when it comes to explosive potential as you can put out a lit cigarette in a pan of gasoline, but vaporize the contents of that pan and contain them where they are between 1.2% and 7.1% of the volume of the container and you have a explosion waiting to happen.

Aaron Z

 

[retiredIW]

Tire valves contain rubber (not designed for contact with solvents) and gasoline will deteriorate the rubber over time. The gasoline container may have dissolved rubber and particles in in that could clog carburetors and the improperly designed vent may eventually leak.

OMG

 

[aczlan]

As I wrote in the post you're replying to, the whole problem arises from a lack of knowledge. So you're asking questions about why did a person do a thing they shouldn't do, from the lack of knowledge that I pointed out in the first place.

If you really want to ensure people must have the proper knowledge before they can do a thing, that means you legislate licensing and a required exam to get the license. That's your answer to #2 in particular, "he" hasn't been taught because we don't require to "you" have a license to buy gasoline, gasoline containers, or start bonfires. I don't want any of that. Do you want any of that?

Alternatively we can implement a very inexpensive, automatic, effective, and reliable feature that will dramatically improve outcomes when someone makes this mistake and learns it the hard way but the not necessarily deadly way.

Nobody is stomping on anybody's rights here. As I wrote, the EPA certainly gets plenty of things wrong but this isn't one of them.

Where do you read my posts as calling for more rules and licensing? The problem is that if it's anything like the previous gas can mandates, it will cause them to become harder to fill a can without spilling and they will leak more than the system that they are replacing.

Aaron Z

 

[retiredIW]

Where do you read my posts as calling for more rules and licensing? The problem is that if it's anything like the previous gas can mandates, it will cause them to become harder to fill a can without spilling and they will leak more than the system that they are replacing.

Aaron Z

 

[MossRoad]

Ah, got to thinking about fire department demo we saw in grade school. This is very similar.