Grapple For BX23
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KirkMcD
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See this thread:
BX Rock Moving 101
BX Rock Moving 101
blackmajicwoman
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Try American Solutions. They have a grapple kit made specifically for BX units.
Berniep
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Jeff at American Solutions has a grapple setup for the BX22.
Because of the hydraulic changes in the BX23 the setup won't work as is. Because he doesn't have a BX23 and the nearest one is 40 miles away I have been working with him a little on getting the new setup going (I hope I have dibs on the first one /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif ).
It looks like the new setup "might" be using electrically operated valves to select between the curl cylinder and the grapple cylinder via a switch mounted on the loader control handle. This will solve some issues with not getting full pressure to the grapple cylinder as well as save hydraulic hose and control valve mounting problems.
He was supposed to get some selctor valves in monday so he is very close to getting it going. If the valve bracket he sent me is any indication the grapple will be top quality fabrication.
Because of the hydraulic changes in the BX23 the setup won't work as is. Because he doesn't have a BX23 and the nearest one is 40 miles away I have been working with him a little on getting the new setup going (I hope I have dibs on the first one /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif ).
It looks like the new setup "might" be using electrically operated valves to select between the curl cylinder and the grapple cylinder via a switch mounted on the loader control handle. This will solve some issues with not getting full pressure to the grapple cylinder as well as save hydraulic hose and control valve mounting problems.
He was supposed to get some selctor valves in monday so he is very close to getting it going. If the valve bracket he sent me is any indication the grapple will be top quality fabrication.
twinsticks
Bronze Member
Keep us posted I am ready to order one for my bx 23
Berniep
Platinum Member
I will keep everyone "posted" /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Berniep
Platinum Member
I spoke with Jeff today and he has the setup working on his Bx22. He is waiting on a hydrualic expert to check it over just to make sure.
Junkman has the original design on his BX22 and if you do a search on his name you should come up some threads. Junkman cannot post to the forums at this time and has asked me to relay his e-mail to any interested parties upon request. So if you want to contact Junkman just PM me or whatever.
Junkman has the original design on his BX22 and if you do a search on his name you should come up some threads. Junkman cannot post to the forums at this time and has asked me to relay his e-mail to any interested parties upon request. So if you want to contact Junkman just PM me or whatever.
Berniep
Platinum Member
Looks like it's going to be 2 or 3 weeks before the grapple ships.
I can hardly wait
I can hardly wait
HomeBrew2
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Junkman can't post to the forums but can receive PM's ... please elaborate ...
Av8r3400
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Best not to go there, or you'll get banned too. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Berniep
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I can recieve pm's and can then send his e-mail address.
I don't know why he can't post and didn't ask. He has always been nice and helpfull to me on here.
I don't know why he can't post and didn't ask. He has always been nice and helpfull to me on here.
Berniep
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RichT
Silver Member
Bernie, could you explain how the grapple is plumbed for hydraulics? Not really addressed on their website.
Berniep
Platinum Member
Tooldad
Yes I do believe that it will fit a BX2200 as this model is mentioned in the intructions for the first generation grapple.(see below)
RichT
Originally the grapple was operated with a valve that was plumbed in with the loader valve hydraulics but because of a bunch of stuff I don't understand enough to explain properly (power beyond valves and all that) the grapple would not get full system pressure untill you used another operation with the loader valve. Eg. you would simultaneously close the grapple and lift the bucket. Wich is certainly do-able with the valve spaced closely enough together. I brought up the option of using a diverter valve on the bucket curl circuit, Jeff liked the idea and it also eliminated a lot of hydraulic hose and the problem of making a valve bracket for the BX23. Jeff has a BX22 and Kubota changed how the loader and control valve mount to the tractor between the 22 and 23., The nearest Bx 23 to him is about 40 minutes it was a real pain to try and get to the dealer and make measurements during working hours. Now the diverter valve(Actually there are two vavles) mount to the loader cross bar and a wire is run back to a switch. When the switch is depressed hydraulic pressure is diverted from the bucket cylinder to the grapple cylinder.
Right now I am working with Jeff to verify the new instructions
and am taking a lot of pictures. I plan to put it all in an install thread when I get it done, hopefully by Sunday evening. If I get it done and it's not rainging I am not going to be sitting here in front of the computer while its daylight /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Oh
I believe the price that is on the website of 1249.00 is what it's going to be. Plus shipping, its shipping weight was 140 lbs and it was about, rough estimate, 50x30 inches. I work for a LTL trucking company so I got a discount, anbd I picked it up at my terminal (you would think I could get it for free but the bean counters don't like that kind of thing /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif)
Yes I do believe that it will fit a BX2200 as this model is mentioned in the intructions for the first generation grapple.(see below)
RichT
Originally the grapple was operated with a valve that was plumbed in with the loader valve hydraulics but because of a bunch of stuff I don't understand enough to explain properly (power beyond valves and all that) the grapple would not get full system pressure untill you used another operation with the loader valve. Eg. you would simultaneously close the grapple and lift the bucket. Wich is certainly do-able with the valve spaced closely enough together. I brought up the option of using a diverter valve on the bucket curl circuit, Jeff liked the idea and it also eliminated a lot of hydraulic hose and the problem of making a valve bracket for the BX23. Jeff has a BX22 and Kubota changed how the loader and control valve mount to the tractor between the 22 and 23., The nearest Bx 23 to him is about 40 minutes it was a real pain to try and get to the dealer and make measurements during working hours. Now the diverter valve(Actually there are two vavles) mount to the loader cross bar and a wire is run back to a switch. When the switch is depressed hydraulic pressure is diverted from the bucket cylinder to the grapple cylinder.
Right now I am working with Jeff to verify the new instructions
and am taking a lot of pictures. I plan to put it all in an install thread when I get it done, hopefully by Sunday evening. If I get it done and it's not rainging I am not going to be sitting here in front of the computer while its daylight /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Oh
I believe the price that is on the website of 1249.00 is what it's going to be. Plus shipping, its shipping weight was 140 lbs and it was about, rough estimate, 50x30 inches. I work for a LTL trucking company so I got a discount, anbd I picked it up at my terminal (you would think I could get it for free but the bean counters don't like that kind of thing /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif)
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