Grounding Rod For Portable Generators Necessary?

[DarkBlack]

Wow, relax. I was clarifying for people who didn't know the difference. I actually thought you did when I wrote that, I guess not. No satisfaction whatsoever and it wasn't my intention to debate, simply clarify the difference between the ground rods (which do not clear faults) and EGCs (grounds) (which do, and is their "primary" purposes)

I'm not sure what you mean "no longer in use", my other examples like metal appliance cases/frames clearly are. It's just not frequent you see a metal-cased drill or hand tool anymore. Stoves, dish washers, refrigerators, etc. all still do, metal surface-mount EMT receptacles, etc

The EGCs DO clear shorts/faults. The ground rods DO NOT. They are both connected together, as is the neutral.

Don't look for me backing your statements, you wrote it. "(no longer in use really), etc..."

 

[DarkBlack]

Your not an electrician, there's more theory than you understand..

:laughing::laughing:

 

[Steve out west]

I am new to this forum and would like to communicate with others who have CS Lister diesel gen. sets as well as changfa's Thanks

 

[MinnesotaDaveChalmers]

Lots of info in this thread - but here is a guy who likely did not read any of it LOL
(well, the grounding rod is in the dirt....)

 

[Reverser]

Good one Dave. :laughing:
Now that's a guy that likes to be code compliant. :confused2:

 

[MinnesotaDaveChalmers]

Good one Dave. :laughing:
Now that's a guy that likes to be code compliant. :confused2:

Yep, he's got a two foot rod pushed into the dirt...must be grounded per OSHA

 

[buickanddeere]

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[buickanddeere]

Manufactures covering their behinds in these days of litigation. Is the resistance to grounding more about balking when somebody tells you to do something that you can see no advantage for yourself to do?
A two ft long ground rod will at best prevent a static charge build up.

 

[Nightforce]

Good one Dave. :laughing:
Now that's a guy that likes to be code compliant. :confused2:

Yep, he's got a two foot rod pushed into the dirt...must be grounded per OSHA

Isn't this pertaining to "portable" generators?? :laughing:

Have generator will travel....dirt included!

 

[MinnesotaDaveChalmers]

Isn't this pertaining to "portable" generators?? :laughing:

Have generator will travel....dirt included!

To be code compliant the dirt has to be local.....only the bucket and generator can be portable

 

[Tractor Seabee]

A lot of us, including my self, tend to get too technical on these type posts from folks that are not EXPERTS like we are. Then there is the obvious bad information passed on as gospel that make the solution and understanding worse.

Sitting back and reflecting on this issue I feel sorry for the poor guy who asked the first simple question, "Does a portable generator need to be grounded to a ground rod (paraphrased). The simple answer "NO" (the code answer) has gotten lost in a lot of technical jargon he could probably care less about. His only concern was Safety. Even a generator connected to a house service would be grounded via the service ground system. If you feel better adding a ground rod and conductor at the generator, do it, you will never know the difference.

Bottom line: If you get the Soares manual, portable generator systems are discussed in detail on Page 41. If you are still confused you need to talk to a professional electrician.

Ron

 

[Reverser]

I feel sorry for the poor guy who asked the first simple question, "Does a portable generator need to be grounded to a ground rod (paraphrased).
Ron

I would think he's gotten his answer by now. He posted over 3 years ago.