Tractor Sizing GUIDE: Shopping/Sizing A Tractor (Development version)

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Re: GUIDE: Shopping/Sizing A Tractor (development version)

So after we decide which size tractor is best what tires and transmission are we getting. Then what oil are we supposed to run. I nearly forgot, what color is this new tractor?
 
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The color of money ;)
 
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Re: GUIDE: Shopping/Sizing A Tractor (development version)

So after we decide which size tractor is best what tires and transmission are we getting. Then what oil are we supposed to run. I nearly forgot, what color is this new tractor?

Weight of tractor. Researchable, comparable weight. WEIGHT. WEIGHT. WEIGHT.
 
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For most new to tractors a quality dealer, reasonably close, available for coaching, is important. Dealer proximity is less important to others, well experienced with tractors, who perform their own maintenance. My kubota dealer is six miles away. I feel my local dealer continues to add value to my equipment.


A quality dealer, reasonably close, is a priority for me; less so for others, well experienced with tractors, who do their own maintenance. For most new to tractors a quality dealer, reasonably close, available for coaching, is important. My kubota dealer is six miles away. I feel my local dealer continues to add value to my equipment.
 
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WORKING DRAFT (3)


The best way to shop for tractors is to list your tasks first, then determine how much bare tractor weight you need to SAFELY accomplish your tasks. Bare tractor weight is a tractor specification easily found in sales brochures and web sites, readily comparable across tractor brands and tractor models.

For most tasks greater tractor chassis weight is more important than tractor horsepower. This tractor fundamental is difficult for people new to tractors to comprehend.

Heavier tractors have more tractive power pulling ground contact implements. Greater mass of heavy-chassis tractors increases tractor stability when transporting loads in the FEL bucket, the most rollover prone of routine tractor tasks. Heavier tractors have larger wheels and tires better able to bridge holes, ruts and downed tree limbs, yielding a smoother, less disturbing passage over rough ground.

Safe hillside operation demands more tractor weight than flat land operation. Heavier tractors have wider wheel spreads making them less laterally unstable. Rear wheel spreads may be decreased or increased.

Shop your weight range within tractor brands. Budget will eliminate some choices. Collect a dealer brochure for each tractor model in your weight range. I spreadsheet tractor and implement specs, often a revealing exercise. I have a column for cost per pound.

Tractors under 3,000 pounds bare weight are offered in one configuration. Most, such as the high volume kubota standard L series, are sparely equipped to hit competitive price points. Others, such as the Yanmar YT235 and Kubota B2650/B3350 series, include enhanced productivity and comfort components.

Most tractors under 3,000 pounds bare weight are operated in residential applications on one to five fairly flat acres. These "residential tractors" fit in a typical garage.

Tractors over 3,000 pounds bare weight are generally offered in a utilitarian configuration and a deluxe configuration, on a common chassis. Deluxe kit enhances productivity and operating comfort ~~~ but you have to pay. Many tractors over 3,000 pounds bare weight are too tall to fit in a typical garage, even with ROPS folded.

It takes a 50% increase in tractor weight before you notice a significant tractor capability increase. It takes a 100% increase in tractor weight to elicit MY-OH-MY!

Selling a used tractor is easy. Selling light implements in order to buy heavier, wider, implements for a heavier tractor you take a hit in depreciation. Passing time with multiple browsers is a pain. ((Ask me how I know.))

For most new to tractors a quality dealer, reasonably close, available for coaching, is important. Dealer proximity is less important to others, well experienced with tractors, who perform their own maintenance. My kubota dealer is six miles away. I feel my local dealer continues to add value to my equipment.

Horsepower is only a primary consideration operating PTO powered implements.

BUY ENOUGH TRACTOR.​
 
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Very good Jeff, now for a primer on what do you want to do with your new tractor:
Task - implement needed, weight, hp, etc.
I think that a lot of newbies don't have any idea of what is required for many of the tasks that they want to use a tractor for. There certainly is a wealth of knowledge among the members, much of it learned the hard (expensive) way!
 
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I see that my formatting got all screwed up, so here is another pass. I have no problem with using weight as a primary differentiator, but why not explain that as weight increases, generally so does ground clearance, width (for stability), and rear tire diameter (for traction)?

Anyway, here is what I think could be a quick visual reference. Cheers!

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   / GUIDE: Shopping/Sizing A Tractor (Development version) #48  
Informative data and commentary...and a tractor noob can do the math on implements and horsepower etc...
but in reality someone that has never operated a tractor etc...will have no real idea (feel) for what they really need and will get the most from...
...selling someone more tractor than what is actually needed can be as much of a disservice as it is an advantage of having reserve power/size in some scenarios...(really, it's true !)

The point is...reading about what is required for certain tasks is entirely different than having hands on experience.
Often a larger, heavier, more powerful machine can work faster but a smaller machine is just as capable with more time being required as the only difference...
 
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It is an imperfect world and I have an imperfect guide. However, it may provide a useful framework to tractor newbies shopping.

Many newbies buy a tractor with insufficient weight which they soon find unsatisfactory. Many, and this includes me, buy a second, heavier tractor with they find unsatisfactory.

The guide's intent is to encourage newbies to buy ENOUGH TRACTOR and to compare apples-to-apples during dealer visits. Too often each tractor dealer visit is random event, unrelated to other tractor dealer visits.

The higher price of heavier tractors provides discipline so that few buy too much tractor.

I will speculate for every 100 too light tractors purchased, 1 heavier than necessary tractor is purchased.
 
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AIRBISCUIT: Graphic in Post #47 is excellent.
 
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