Hauling Sub-Compact.

   / Hauling Sub-Compact. #21  
That looks like quite a few homebuilt trailers I've encountered. The axle looks to be mounted at the midpoint of the cargo box, which balances the gravel load all on the axle (mobile home axle, too). Slipper springs, and light ones at that. A properly built box trailer should have closer to 60% of the box in front of the axle, so that tongue weight increases as the load does. Proper tongue weight is important - too light will cause the trailer to whip at speed, and that's pucker time! Quite often results in a very bad day.
I just scrapped a 24’ homebuilt travel trailer I found on CL to get some steel to weld with. He told me if I brought fresh tires I could tow it home…glad I didn’t even attempt that method. Pretty scary that this was holding a 24’ travel trailer, he had torn it down to the deck before I got to it but the floor was 2x6, 2x4, and 3/4 ply construction and weighed a crap ton so can’t imagine what it wheighed as a complete travel trailer.
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   / Hauling Sub-Compact. #22  
Looks like that "one-ton" trailer has a 6K axle. It looks like a mobile home axle, but that hub is for more than 2000 lbs I believe. You could expect your SCUT, with loader, to come in at about 1800lbs. A yard of gravel is about 2700 lbs - more for some grades - so if it handled that with grace, your tractor would be less of a load. The leaf springs appear to be your limiting factor.
 
   / Hauling Sub-Compact. #24  
I pull with a 14k tilt bed. The load runs about 10K. It is correct, whatever you carry, the total load must be considered, tractor, fuel on tractor, all implements, and the weight of the trailer. Over 3500# requires brakes on one axle here, and over #5000, Brakes on both axles. I also use a sway bar equlizing hitch. Also, the total load of trailer (above) + the weight of the two vehicle is the GCVW (Gross Combined Vehicle Weight. ) That should also not be exceeded. Best wishes. Larry
 

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   / Hauling Sub-Compact. #26  
All you need is good trailer brakes and weight balance. If your underpowered, then gearing and patience. For instance, this set up here requires all of the above plus an additional abundance prayer. :)
That may be a smart car, but not smart driver. Ha
 
   / Hauling Sub-Compact. #27  
I tried hauling my BX on a 16" equipment trailer with a Dakota pickup. I rapidly determined I had the tail wagging the dog.
Well there's your problem. I hope you meant 16' trailer, not 16". :)
 
   / Hauling Sub-Compact. #28  
I just scrapped a 24’ homebuilt travel trailer I found on CL to get some steel to weld with. He told me if I brought fresh tires I could tow it home…glad I didn’t even attempt that method. Pretty scary that this was holding a 24’ travel trailer, he had torn it down to the deck before I got to it but the floor was 2x6, 2x4, and 3/4 ply construction and weighed a crap ton so can’t imagine what it wheighed as a complete travel trailer.
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NOT a mobile home axle. This is a older pickup front axle that has had the spindles welded to the axle and the axle itself cut in two and had some angle iron pieces scabbed on to make it wider. Even the springs and perches are from a truck. This is a recipe for disaster.
 
   / Hauling Sub-Compact. #31  
I wouldn’t haul my BX on less than the 7k GVWR car trailer. It only has brakes on one axle, which sucks, but otherwise it’s much more trailer than required. I prefer to be well within the envelope, not smashing out of it, when possible. I also prefer to not have one tire, on each side. On the car trailer, it’s a cakewalk. In my dump trailer, it’s even better.

My first truck was a 1500 Silverado. It was okay, but had the wrong rear axle ratio. My dually is a much better puller, though unnecessary, for a SCUT.

Silverado pulling a rented dump trailer:
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Current truck with car trailer:
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Current truck and dump trailer:
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It tows just fine.
I see now what the confusion was, you guys thought I wanted to tow the tractor in that trailer. Ha!
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   / Hauling Sub-Compact. #35  
fill that trailer enough, and it will tow the tractor for you, whether you want it to or not.
 
   / Hauling Sub-Compact. #39  
Just make sure you load the tongue heavier than the tail.
lol it won't change anything when all 4 tires are locked up, and your still moving. learned there was limit to my atv's stopping capability
 
   / Hauling Sub-Compact. #40  
lol it won't change anything when all 4 tires are locked up, and your still moving. learned there was limit to my atv's stopping capability

Naw, that means there’s not enough weight on the tractor/tongue and you don’t have the Traction to stop.
Now if you got the brake pedal mashed, and the weight/traction can still overpower the brakes and turn the tires, that’s a different problem.
Similar to pulling. Many times you have the horsepower, but not the traction.
 

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