Hayloft is Crashing Down! Help!

   / Hayloft is Crashing Down! Help! #103  
The owner would have been better off hiring an engineer to properly design the beam required to carry the estimated loading. While the laminated beam looks pretty and is under the joists to properly support them, there are many joists transfering their weight to a beam that does not have that adequate carrying capacity in my estimation. I realize the original beam/support is still being used in addition to the laminated beam added. It probably will never collapse but pretty and whatafellerthinks is no way to design load bearing structures. Rant over...
 
   / Hayloft is Crashing Down! Help!
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#104  
The owner would have been better off hiring an engineer to properly design the beam required to carry the estimated loading. While the laminated beam looks pretty and is under the joists to properly support them, there are many joists transfering their weight to a beam that does not have that adequate carrying capacity in my estimation. I realize the original beam/support is still being used in addition to the laminated beam added. It probably will never collapse but pretty and whatafellerthinks is no way to design load bearing structures. Rant over...

No offense, but got any facts to back up your estimation? Like span tables for the LVL used? You might be right but without some data, you are just another feller with an opinion..
 
   / Hayloft is Crashing Down! Help! #105  
No offense, but got any facts to back up your estimation? Like span tables for the LVL used? You might be right but without some data, you are just another feller with an opinion..

No offense taken but I am an engineer and have had the misfortune of providing structural designing with wood. It just seems not near the capacity to me to carry that number of joists given the intended loading conditions. I would have to have all of the existing information, column spacing, etc. to actually go through the numbers. I am going off of gut instinct and past experiences. Didn't mean to disparage anyone but believe some things should be done correct especially when public safety is involved. I doubt it would have cost $500 in design fees and then you would have the facts instead of speculating which I have done. :(
 
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That's fair enough. Your opinion is certainly more informed than mine. I actually agree about getting an engineer involved, or at least researching the span tables for LVL.

Had this been my barn, I would have consulted an engineer. Maybe Levi checked specs with his supplier but I don't know that.
 
   / Hayloft is Crashing Down! Help! #107  
It looks like a good repair IMO.

And for what its worth, maybe "Levi" DID consult span tables or an engineer and that is what was specified. We just dont know.
 
   / Hayloft is Crashing Down! Help! #109  
Hi , I would get the and then hay out of the top then jack some 6 by 6 underneath the beams and then draw the building back together with chain and binds or rachet straps

If you could get something under the beams first would be a good idea to keep it from going farther.
 
   / Hayloft is Crashing Down! Help! #110  
Hi , I would get the and then hay out of the top then jack some 6 by 6 underneath the beams and then draw the building back together with chain and binds or rachet straps

If you could get something under the beams first would be a good idea to keep it from going farther.

Uh.....I think he already got it fixed:thumbsup:
 

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