Help me pick a tractor (25-45 HP)

   / Help me pick a tractor (25-45 HP) #41  
The vast majority of Tier IV tractors between 25 and 75hp have no problems with their emissions systems. There's been a few bad models like the Kubota B3350 and some makes like LS where some units seem to do regens really often but mostly they work fine.

Operating in cold weather and idling a lot can make a DPF based system need to regen more often.

Below 75hp no one uses DEF like in pickup trucks, so that's one system that won't be causing problems.
What about EGR?

What machines have EGR?
 
   / Help me pick a tractor (25-45 HP) #42  
Go big or go home. ;)

Whatever size tractor you think you need go one size bigger. Ask me how I know.

Went from a L3301 to a MX5400.
Might be better in the long run to get a heavier trail
 
   / Help me pick a tractor (25-45 HP) #43  
Shop your towing weight. 4x4 a given requirement. Your mension of revines prompts me for you to opt for agricultural tires at first, then if budget permits buy R4s later.
 
   / Help me pick a tractor (25-45 HP) #44  
I have reached the stage of overanalysis paralysis. Please help me out.

Background info:

Properties:
- 20 acres where I live (flat and ~90% wooded)
- 120 acres "up north" (Flat to rolling but there are ravines ~97% wooded)

Needs:

- Lifting and moving logs and brush as I clear more space for plantings. (Both locations)
- brush hogging trails and clearings 2-3 times a year (up north)
- food plot/garden prep from meadow/sod (both locations)
- drainage work on trails (up north, will probably rent mini-ex for this)

Limitations:

-Weight must be <5400lbs for me to tow with my truck/trailer combo.
- Budget is flexible but I want to be sensible

Currently considering (all hst with loader):

-Used low hour Kubota 2501, 3901 (19-27k)
-New bobcat 2025 (bobcat is the only dealer nearby up north, with 3rd function, 21.6k)
-used low hour kioti ck2610 (with 3rd function and dual rear remotes) 19k
-New kioti ck3520se (with 3rd function+ dual rear remotes) 28.5 cash, 31k financed

I have a 6.5-7 foot flail mower that I used to run on a Ford 860. It would save me a purchase if my new machine has the HP for it, but I'm nervous about emissions/computerized stuff and not sure if I should be. I also don't have the facilities to do a lot of mechanic work on an older pre emissions machine.

If you're still reading by now chip in a comment. Any feedback is appreciated!
Look at the Massey Ferguson GC1725M 25HP lot of tractor for the size. I've had mine for 5yrs and its hasn't failed me yet.
 
   / Help me pick a tractor (25-45 HP) #45  
I have reached the stage of overanalysis paralysis. Please help me out.

Background info:

Properties:
- 20 acres where I live (flat and ~90% wooded)
- 120 acres "up north" (Flat to rolling but there are ravines ~97% wooded)

Needs:

- Lifting and moving logs and brush as I clear more space for plantings. (Both locations)
- brush hogging trails and clearings 2-3 times a year (up north)
- food plot/garden prep from meadow/sod (both locations)
- drainage work on trails (up north, will probably rent mini-ex for this)

Limitations:

-Weight must be <5400lbs for me to tow with my truck/trailer combo.
- Budget is flexible but I want to be sensible

Currently considering (all hst with loader):

-Used low hour Kubota 2501, 3901 (19-27k)
-New bobcat 2025 (bobcat is the only dealer nearby up north, with 3rd function, 21.6k)
-used low hour kioti ck2610 (with 3rd function and dual rear remotes) 19k
-New kioti ck3520se (with 3rd function+ dual rear remotes) 28.5 cash, 31k financed

I have a 6.5-7 foot flail mower that I used to run on a Ford 860. It would save me a purchase if my new machine has the HP for it, but I'm nervous about emissions/computerized stuff and not sure if I should be. I also don't have the facilities to do a lot of mechanic work on an older pre emissions machine.

If you're still reading by now chip in a comment. Any feedback is appreciated!
For what it's worth, I've had nothing but Kiotis and I've had zero problems with them. Before I purchased my first subcompact I looked at both Kubota and John Deere, but they were both much more costly than the Kioti. Had the subcompact for 7 years before I upgraded to a 25 HP compact. Sold the first unit for the same as I paid for it and probably could have gotten more if I wanted.

Other reasons for me to purchase the Kioti had more to do with the other makes, John Deere uses a proprietary bucket attachment system that I refuse to accept (you need to buy buckets and attachments only designed for John Deere tractors, as far as I know EVERYONE else uses the Bobcat quick attachment system) and Kubota uses the treadle pedal system on their HST tractors and my ankles just aren't comfortable with a day of using that type.

But there is no doubt that Kubota and John Deere tractors are good units. But for me it's Kioti all the way.

I hope this helps. And good luck in your search.
 
   / Help me pick a tractor (25-45 HP) #47  
I have reached the stage of overanalysis paralysis. Please help me out.

Background info:

Properties:
- 20 acres where I live (flat and ~90% wooded)
- 120 acres "up north" (Flat to rolling but there are ravines ~97% wooded)

Needs:

- Lifting and moving logs and brush as I clear more space for plantings. (Both locations)
- brush hogging trails and clearings 2-3 times a year (up north)
- food plot/garden prep from meadow/sod (both locations)
- drainage work on trails (up north, will probably rent mini-ex for this)

Limitations:

-Weight must be <5400lbs for me to tow with my truck/trailer combo.
- Budget is flexible but I want to be sensible

Currently considering (all hst with loader):

-Used low hour Kubota 2501, 3901 (19-27k)
-New bobcat 2025 (bobcat is the only dealer nearby up north, with 3rd function, 21.6k)
-used low hour kioti ck2610 (with 3rd function and dual rear remotes) 19k
-New kioti ck3520se (with 3rd function+ dual rear remotes) 28.5 cash, 31k financed

I have a 6.5-7 foot flail mower that I used to run on a Ford 860. It would save me a purchase if my new machine has the HP for it, but I'm nervous about emissions/computerized stuff and not sure if I should be. I also don't have the facilities to do a lot of mechanic work on an older pre emissions machine.

If you're still reading by now chip in a comment. Any feedback is appreciated!
Whatever you buy, you should get a custom-made belly guard. Farm tractors are not meant to be used in the woods, and they are very vulnerable to damage from logs or branches popping up when driving over them. I have 80 acres of woods and I use a Mahindra 5035HST fited with a belly guard. I also suggest you consider hydrostat drive for your personal safety. If your tractor starts to flip with a gear drive tractor, you will not be able to stop it in time. With an HST, just stop pressing on the drive pedal. Likewise with branches hitting you.
 
   / Help me pick a tractor (25-45 HP) #48  
I have reached the stage of overanalysis paralysis. Please help me out.

Background info:

Properties:
- 20 acres where I live (flat and ~90% wooded)
- 120 acres "up north" (Flat to rolling but there are ravines ~97% wooded)

Needs:

- Lifting and moving logs and brush as I clear more space for plantings. (Both locations)
- brush hogging trails and clearings 2-3 times a year (up north)
- food plot/garden prep from meadow/sod (both locations)
- drainage work on trails (up north, will probably rent mini-ex for this)

Limitations:

-Weight must be <5400lbs for me to tow with my truck/trailer combo.
- Budget is flexible but I want to be sensible

Currently considering (all hst with loader):

-Used low hour Kubota 2501, 3901 (19-27k)
-New bobcat 2025 (bobcat is the only dealer nearby up north, with 3rd function, 21.6k)
-used low hour kioti ck2610 (with 3rd function and dual rear remotes) 19k
-New kioti ck3520se (with 3rd function+ dual rear remotes) 28.5 cash, 31k financed

I have a 6.5-7 foot flail mower that I used to run on a Ford 860. It would save me a purchase if my new machine has the HP for it, but I'm nervous about emissions/computerized stuff and not sure if I should be. I also don't have the facilities to do a lot of mechanic work on an older pre emissions machine.

If you're still reading by now chip in a comment. Any feedback is appreciated!
I have about the same exact situation. I have a Mahindra 5145 and would recommend it to anyone with your type setting. I have a grapple up front and a flail ditch bank mower on the rear. I use it in the woods as well as to move 5x6 round bales of hay. I move the hay with nothing on the rear. I transport it on a goose neck trailer pulled with a 2004 Dodge 2500 ram 4x4.
 
   / Help me pick a tractor (25-45 HP) #49  
What is unspoken here, is that we are advising him on buying his first tractor.
No.
He had another tractor that has hydraulic issues...




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   / Help me pick a tractor (25-45 HP) #50  
The fundamental importance of TRACTOR WEIGHT eludes many tractor shoppers. Tractor capability is more closely correlated to tractor weight than any other single (1) specification.

The most efficient way to shop for tractors is to first identify potential tractor applications, then, through consulataton, establish bare tractor weight necessary to safely accomplish your applications. Tractor dealers, experienced tractor owners and TractorByNet.com are sources for weight recommendations.

Sufficient tractor weight is more important for most tractor applications than increased tractor horsepower. Bare tractor weight is a tractor specification easily found in sales brochures and web sites, readily comparable across tractor brands and tractor models, new and used.

Shop your weight range within tractor brands. Budget will eliminate some choices. Collect a dealer brochure for each tractor model in your weight range. I spreadsheet tractor and implement specs, often a revealing exercise. I have a column for cost per pound.

Most tractors under 3,000 pounds bare weight operate in residential or hobby farm applications on one to ten flat acres.

Selling a used tractor is easy. Selling multiple light implements in order to buy heavier, wider implements for a new, heavier tractor requires a lot of time. Depreciation on implements is worse than depreciation on a tractor.

When considering a tractor purchase bare tractor weight first, tractor horsepower second, rear axle width third, rear wheel/tire ballast fourth.

A quality dealer, reasonably close, available for coaching, is important for tractor neophytes. Most new tractors are delivered with a glitch or two requiring correction. My Kubota dealer is six miles away. I feel my local dealer continues to add value to my equipment after nine years. Dealer proximity is less important for those experienced with tractors and qualified to perform their own maintenance.

BUY ENOUGH TRACTOR.
That is why I bought a Mahindra 5035HST. It weighs about 1500 lb more than the comparable Kubota model. It also has larger tires and more lift capacity.
 

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