High fuel cost and wood

/ High fuel cost and wood #41  
Really, I've never thought of it being illegal, most horse people will tell you it is illegal when it isn't. BUT I gotta ask, what does horse taste like??? Ive had deer, beef, squirrel, porkepine, and goose. I couldn't stand goose or porkepine, but the others were tasty.
 
/ High fuel cost and wood #42  
I hated that dude until last year, suddenly he's making a lot of sense in the things he says. I must be getting senile.
Why the hate? It is all about perspective I guess. I have been loving him since I bought stock in 2009.
 
/ High fuel cost and wood #43  
If you want a treat, see if anyone is still raising emu. Big, stupid, dangerous birds, but oh so tasty!

Best Regards,

Mike/Florida
 
/ High fuel cost and wood #45  
Everyone is seeing rocketing fuel costs I guess. Here diesel has gone to $ 2.10 per litre Canadian. That translates to $6.72 per US gallon if I am right on my calculation. Highest ever seen.
My necessary work I will just have to absorb the cost. But I also produce a modest amount of firewood I sell to the neighbourhood. I will have to jack my price but hate to. Been checking the market and so far no one is moving from last year price which has been steady for a few years. And we don't know if the fuel cost will return back down soon.
Just wondering how everyone is handling these times and how price is affecting you. Wood or anytinng else.
Keep firewood same price and do like the trucking companies do and charge a fuel surcharge. Modify surcharge up/down according to fuel cost.
 
/ High fuel cost and wood #46  
I am currently building a new smaller retirement home, planning on using propane for boiler baseboard heat/stove/dryer. But I also have an EPA woodstove (works good when no power etc. can even warm up food on it). Im weighing the possibility of making my own smaller wood boiler as a means to take over the primary propane boiler, its scary when you watch the news how our political establishment is just out to kill anything that is using oil and force people to use electric. Before I go to an electric boiler, ill def. make a wood one instead. Seen so many get rid of their woodstoves these past few years...with the recent power outage due to ice storm and cost of petroleum based heat (including nat. gas), I bet a lot of them wished they kept their woodstove.
Your wood stove will be next. Regardless if EPA or not. If it isn't the nutsy socialist environment folks it'll be the tree huggers.

Don't forget to put your cows in plastic bubbles, wouldn't want their farts to cause the end of the world someday!
 
/ High fuel cost and wood #47  
We had geothermal installed a few years ago but I still use our fireplace. Unless it’s really cold out the furnace won’t hardly run.
 
/ High fuel cost and wood #48  
I was supposed to buy a mid-sized PU Truck this year. But given the gas prices, decided to just hang on and put money into the aging Festiva. I'm starting to get unsolicited cash offers for it, once a week now, some verbally and some notes on the windscreen.
For my usual wood projects, I'm lucky in the sense that there is a local wood salvage yard. Its not well organized, but with a bit of time looking around, I can usually find what I need at 1/3 cost of the usual lumber yards. The most difficult part is protecting my collected pile from other people. :)
My "go to" retail wood is now un-gauged cedar fencing boards. These are still relatively inexpensive, yet they take a lot of work to make them square/dimensional and useful for things other than fencing. I've also started to go straight to some of the local saw mills that have started to sell direct to the public on stuff they can't market to the big box stores. And again, this type of wood isn't completely finished, so it takes extra work to make the wood usable. Every little bit of scrape goes in to the wood stove for heating.
 
/ High fuel cost and wood #49  
Really, I've never thought of it being illegal, most horse people will tell you it is illegal when it isn't. BUT I gotta ask, what does horse taste like??? Ive had deer, beef, squirrel, porkepine, and goose. I couldn't stand goose or porkepine, but the others were tasty.
I've eaten quite a bit of horse meat in my life (in various countries). To me, it tastes like lean beef, not gamey at all. If anything it "might" be just a bit sweeter than beef, but if do just a bit.

On the porcupine, you probably didn't remove the scent gland from the armpits. Makes it really gamey. Too bad you haven't had groundhog, horse is simular but much, much more tender. In the bordertowns of Mexico, the will sell "Filet Mignon" that is the size of a small platter (yes, it's horse). Just as tender, bacon wrap gives it some fat and covers the sweetness (if it has any). Hope this helps.
 
/ High fuel cost and wood #50  
I was supposed to buy a mid-sized PU Truck this year. But given the gas prices, decided to just hang on and put money into the aging Festiva. I'm starting to get unsolicited cash offers for it, once a week now, some verbally and some notes on the windscreen.
For my usual wood projects, I'm lucky in the sense that there is a local wood salvage yard. Its not well organized, but with a bit of time looking around, I can usually find what I need at 1/3 cost of the usual lumber yards. The most difficult part is protecting my collected pile from other people. :)
My "go to" retail wood is now un-gauged cedar fencing boards. These are still relatively inexpensive, yet they take a lot of work to make them square/dimensional and useful for things other than fencing. I've also started to go straight to some of the local saw mills that have started to sell direct to the public on stuff they can't market to the big box stores. And again, this type of wood isn't completely finished, so it takes extra work to make the wood usable. Every little bit of scrape goes in to the wood stove for heating.
Those are good boards and still somewhat cheap down here too. I also use the round edged "landscape" boards for posts, "almost" 4x4's etc. HD, still selling the 8 footers here for ~$4-5 ea. If I need to, I'll run then through the planer to make them "pretty".
 
/ High fuel cost and wood #51  
Why the hate? It is all about perspective I guess. I have been loving him since I bought stock in 2009.
Hate is a strong word, used for comparison. I just never saw anything to admire I guess is a better way of saying it.
 
/ High fuel cost and wood #53  
I was supposed to buy a mid-sized PU Truck this year. But given the gas prices, decided to just hang on and put money into the aging Festiva. I'm starting to get unsolicited cash offers for it, once a week now, some verbally and some notes on the windscreen.
For my usual wood projects, I'm lucky in the sense that there is a local wood salvage yard. Its not well organized, but with a bit of time looking around, I can usually find what I need at 1/3 cost of the usual lumber yards. The most difficult part is protecting my collected pile from other people. :)
My "go to" retail wood is now un-gauged cedar fencing boards. These are still relatively inexpensive, yet they take a lot of work to make them square/dimensional and useful for things other than fencing. I've also started to go straight to some of the local saw mills that have started to sell direct to the public on stuff they can't market to the big box stores. And again, this type of wood isn't completely finished, so it takes extra work to make the wood usable. Every little bit of scrape goes in to the wood stove for heating
good wood never goes to waste. :)
 
/ High fuel cost and wood #54  
So basically, its like deer meat, you gotta kill it and butcher it on your own, no inspection etc. so thats why it cannot be sold. Someday.....someday Im gonna try me some horse and groundhog....
 
/ High fuel cost and wood #55  
Sure don’t. I’m sure it would be very expensive meat, not sure how much food a horse eats before maturity compared to beef.
There was a time back in the '70s when beef got expensive, and horse meat was being sold as an inexpensive alternative. I'm not sure where it came from, but I am certain that we never tried it.
 
/ High fuel cost and wood #56  
There was a time back in the '70s when beef got expensive, and horse meat was being sold as an inexpensive alternative. I'm not sure where it came from, but I am certain that we never tried it.
And before that…this has actually been my avatar on another site for years :ROFLMAO:
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/ High fuel cost and wood #57  
So basically, its like deer meat, you gotta kill it and butcher it on your own, no inspection etc. so thats why it cannot be sold. Someday.....someday Im gonna try me some horse and groundhog....
Back in the days when my parents owned the farm, Dad had a night job as a machinist to make things meet. But that job would be subject to periodic layoffs depending on how the company's sales were going. When Dad was laid off he couldn't collect unemployment insurance because he was also working the farm, so things would get tight from time to time. We grew and put up our own vegetables, but buying meat was a problem, especially when inflation was in the double digits. So, we have been known to march a heifer around to the back of the barn, dispatch it with a shotgun slug, and process it ourselves.
There were times when we didn't have much money, but we ate very well, anyway. It's a poor farmer that lets his family go hungry.
 
/ High fuel cost and wood #58  
And before that…this has actually been my avatar on another site for years :ROFLMAO:

Back in the days when my parents owned the farm, Dad had a night job as a machinist to make things meet. But that job would be subject to periodic layoffs depending on how the company's sales were going. When Dad was laid off he couldn't collect unemployment insurance because he was also working the farm, so things would get tight from time to time. We grew and put up our own vegetables, but buying meat was a problem, especially when inflation was in the double digits. So, we have been known to march a heifer around to the back of the barn, dispatch it with a shotgun slug, and process it ourselves.
There were times when we didn't have much money, but we ate very well, anyway. It's a poor farmer that lets his family go hungry.
Now that would be a good skill/knowledge to have, in today's world most barely know how to cut up meat as it comes from the store let alone try to butcher an animal properly. I know cows gotta hang for a certain amount of time before butchering etc. but someday Im going to volunteer to work at a butcher shop just to learn the basics of cow/pig/big animal butchering, I do my own small game and deer processing including canned venison, which is my absolute favorite way to process the venison. Many people would never want to experience being "poor" money wise like you had to, but to me I would have been satisfied. I think we, as a people, have "advanced" to a point where its more a hassel than its worth but thats a long discussion hahaha. Lets just say I envy the Amish, not so much as their religious beliefs but the way they live, some have not changed the way they do things for over 75 years...but they eat really good wholesome food, they work hard and that's a form of physical fitness, most are very healthy and the cancer rates are probably extremely low etc. they don't rely on the Gov't for handouts etc. and if/when SHTF they will be that one group that knows how to survive without. I look at the way they live as the ultimate "green" and in harmony with the earth, but its not easy to do a life like that, unless you actually prepare ahead of time and have the funds to make sure you are debt free before experimenting in that way of life.
 
/ High fuel cost and wood #59  
Hi' The reason we have these high fuel costs is not based on a shortage ,supply problems or the usual greed of oil producers it's got to do with human nature, quite simply the fear of the possibility of all out war, the cost is a measure to prevent Hording and there is no better way to stop hording than vastly increasing fuel costs.
If any one doubts this cast your minds back to the 70s when there were real shortages prices were only slightly higher and fuel was rationed with long ques to get a few litres before service stations ran out of fuel, Small car sales boomed how ever that lesson was soon forgotten, diesels became the way to go for most commercial transport.
Then there was the most Pointless dumbest most insane hording of toilet paper started by some nut case in the recent pandemic, and that's all it takes is some dooms day nut case, to get on the net and spread fear to get people pannick buying.

Sure there is a real threat to the stability of us all, but it's mostly by home grown nut cases with access to the media, these sky high fuel prices are to protect us from our selves and will be hear for a long time in to the future.
 
/ High fuel cost and wood #60  
Back in the days when my parents owned the farm, Dad had a night job as a machinist to make things meet. But that job would be subject to periodic layoffs depending on how the company's sales were going. When Dad was laid off he couldn't collect unemployment insurance because he was also working the farm, so things would get tight from time to time. We grew and put up our own vegetables, but buying meat was a problem, especially when inflation was in the double digits. So, we have been known to march a heifer around to the back of the barn, dispatch it with a shotgun slug, and process it ourselves.
There were times when we didn't have much money, but we ate very well, anyway. It's a poor farmer that lets his family go hungry.
What's your age range if you don't mind? Can't say it enough, folks don't realize how recent story's like this are, and how they need to know the lessons.
 

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