Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running

   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #181  
How did we get from PTOs to guns and ranges? Seems this needs to go to a different forum so we can get back to PTO problems

Sorry about that; guess I didn't read the forum rules. I think we have about beat the PTO issue to death.

I have never been to a gun range and after reading a couple of posts on another thread I was thinking it might be nice to check one out sometime so I could try some different handguns. Now you guys have pretty much convinced me it would be safer to just hook up with the pto turning than going to a gun range:laughing:

You might want to check into an indoor range or gun club with a Range Officer. I have a handgun range in my back yard as well as a handgun rifle range on another farm, so I guess I am pretty lucky. I'm retired now, so I no longer have to go elsewhere ; both my sons are firearms instructors too.
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #182  
I have never been to a gun range and after reading a couple of posts on another thread I was thinking it might be nice to check one out sometime so I could try some different handguns. Now you guys have pretty much convinced me it would be safer to just hook up with the pto turning than going to a gun range:laughing:

now you know why some of us shoot on our own property vs a range... at least on our own property we are a bit safer...

soundguy
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #183  
Sorry about that; guess I didn't read the forum rules. I think we have about beat the PTO issue to death.
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having a topic wander is just about par for the course on a good forum. means there are active members, actively participating into the conversations.

i take it as a good sign of 'health' for a discussion website. shows it has a diverse, engaged, and active membership.

soundguy
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #184  
now you know why some of us shoot on our own property vs a range... at least on our own property we are a bit safer...

soundguy

Yeah, public ranges can be scary. There was man shot up north (Harrisburg PA area) at public range...not an accident. Apparently, the shooter wanted the victim's tricked out AR-15.
They did catch the shooter. Looks like a death penalty case coming soon.

That said, a private (commercial) or member's only range is definitely a better option, if at all possible.

I shoot out back sometimes. However, there is a road about a mile away (woods and a field between the road and my property)...I limit myself to .22 handguns.
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #185  
i'd for sure join a range that was club sponsored / ran.. wish we had one near here...

soundguy
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #186  
I don't have to go to a range to get scared. All I have to do is stay home during rifle elk season. Lotta folks out there in my back yard trying hard to prove something to themselves.
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #187  
i have a buddy that somehow bought a corener lot/parcel into the side of the ocala nat forrest. somehow it got seperated sometimes back in history and was legal to be sold befor ethe land was protected..e tc.

I sure would not want to live there. tooo mnay hunters and not enough game or woods..!!

soundguy
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #188  
No public lands around here to speak of, though the state owns the 80 acres right behind me and is logging the 100 year old second growth right now (for all practical purposes, the state is just one more logging company, contracting with the same gypo loggers as the corporations). Those 80 acres are a remnant of a rare habitat in a land of 40 year monoculture, so-called, tree farms, almost all owned now by John Hancock (was Crown Zellerbach land before a British billionaire's leveraged takeover of Crown in the early '80s, followed by a long succession of transfers through many companies {including Campbell's Soup, of all things} playing financial games, avoiding taxes and hiding their wealth).

Anyway, starting from a few hundred feet in front of my cabin to many miles behind it, I represent the one person residing in hundreds of square miles. What else is a guy with PTSD to do? Like I told my VA shrink, I try to be a hermit, and I even screw that up.

All these lands were open to anyone until the early '90s when the then major owner, Willamette Industries, gated all the roads. They placed the gate on the nearby logging road right at this property's back corner, about 600 feet from where I sit. They put a nice wide spot in the road for the hunters to park their pickups and head out onto the land. I've learned to put my NO HUNTING signs at least 8 feet above the ground so they don't get stolen every year.

Every year, a couple of bulls come out of this dead end. That's for the hundreds of hunters from all over the state who come here to try and get their bull. They don't realize that our local herd stays, from year to year, at about twenty animals. The pressure on this little herd is intense. There is actually a hunting club that named themselves after our valley, and they are based three hours from here in the suburbs of Seattle.

After 38 years here, I've seen just about everything from these "sportsmen," much of it not very nice. I live at the end of a dead end road in a county without a traffic signal light. But nowhere is safe it seems.

I like to hunt, even though I've long been a vegetarian. I love to hunt the wonderful fall mushrooms of the coastal hills. Too bad it is hunting season.
 
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   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #189  
I'm in the "hook up the 3PH implement with the engine running, then turn off the engine to hook up the shaft" group.

My tractor has an electric switch for engaging PTO.

Also, put PTO selector to mid position during hookup, so rear PTO shaft turns free.

Never fired at a public range, I have a range on my property.
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #190  
Also, put PTO selector to mid position during hookup, so rear PTO shaft turns free.

Man, don't I wish my new LS had that feature. It seems only to have a brake on the shaft unless it's engaged.
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #191  
Hooking up PTO w/ engine running.

NO NEVER

Don't do it and don't listen to those who do.

If you do it now STOP, you got lucky.

HS
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #192  
Yeah. I got lucky and have 4 tractors that are totally safe to do it ... and another that is somewhat less safe. Cant win em all I guess.
larry
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #193  
I have actually witnessed a PTO start by itself in a bigger tractor with the electronic switch. what happend was the switch shorted out and caused it to engage. happens just as easy as that!
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #194  
Yep ... Progress integrated over time = zero. -- Or in this case a negative benefit of automation.:thumbdown::mad:
larry
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #195  
yep.. I'll take all my old mechanical engagement pto's..

soundguy
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #196  
Hooking up PTO w/ engine running.

NO NEVER

Don't do it and don't listen to those who do.

If you do it now STOP, you got lucky.

HS

sounds slightly alarmist sounding :)

next you'l be telling me not to work on live 120vac circuits or something.. :).. or use my 30 yea rold sears radial arm saw that has no guards on it.. :)

soundguy
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #197  
"My PTO will not work if no one is sitting in seat....." Yeah, same with mine, but I shut the engine OFF, period.

Even heard this one:

"The odds of getting attacked and eaten by a lion on Main Street, downtown, are not very high, but it only has to happen to you once, to ruin your entire day....."
Unless your address is Zanesville, Ohio.
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #198  
No public lands around here to speak of, though the state owns the 80 acres right behind me and is logging the 100 year old second growth right now (for all practical purposes, the state is just one more logging company, contracting with the same gypo loggers as the corporations). Those 80 acres are a remnant of a rare habitat in a land of 40 year monoculture, so-called, tree farms, almost all owned now by John Hancock (was Crown Zellerbach land before a British billionaire's leveraged takeover of Crown in the early '80s, followed by a long succession of transfers through many companies {including Campbell's Soup, of all things} playing financial games, avoiding taxes and hiding their wealth).

Anyway, starting from a few hundred feet in front of my cabin to many miles behind it, I represent the one person residing in hundreds of square miles. What else is a guy with PTSD to do? Like I told my VA shrink, I try to be a hermit, and I even screw that up.

All these lands were open to anyone until the early '90s when the then major owner, Willamette Industries, gated all the roads. They placed the gate on the nearby logging road right at this property's back corner, about 600 feet from where I sit. They put a nice wide spot in the road for the hunters to park their pickups and head out onto the land. I've learned to put my NO HUNTING signs at least 8 feet above the ground so they don't get stolen every year.

Every year, a couple of bulls come out of this dead end. That's for the hundreds of hunters from all over the state who come here to try and get their bull. They don't realize that our local herd stays, from year to year, at about twenty animals. The pressure on this little herd is intense. There is actually a hunting club that named themselves after our valley, and they are based three hours from here in the suburbs of Seattle.

After 38 years here, I've seen just about everything from these "sportsmen," much of it not very nice. I live at the end of a dead end road in a county without a traffic signal light. But nowhere is safe it seems.

I like to hunt, even though I've long been a vegetarian. I love to hunt the wonderful fall mushrooms of the coastal hills. Too bad it is hunting season.
Dunno where to go with this one...............

Other than it's your choice to be vegan.

A humans phyisical makeup(and dietary needs) differs with your decision, but I respect it.
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #199  
My BX25 is really a compact tractor. Hooking up the PTO was a real pain to hold it up, start the universal on the shaft, turn the PTO shaft to align the spline and fumble with the sleeve or pin locking device (I have both) all while scrunched into the limited space. Solved it; for each PTO shaft took a 4" bail type pipe hanger slid it over the plastic shaft guard, took a piece of all thread and double nut to hanger, bend a hook in the all thread to fit over the top link, set it all line the shaft up with the PTO spline, start the shaft on the spline use a large drift pin and turn the inplement shaft to align the spline, shoveit on, engage the locking device and all mis well. Each one is adjusted for that iplement and ties to the guard after connected. They make a hanger with a latch you could use and take off each time. Thought about it but figured they would either get lost or mixed up anyway. Now a one armed guy could do it. Us old guys have to find the easy ways to get around the stiff joints.

Ron
Sub-compact..........there is a difference.:)
 
   / Hooking up PTO w/ Engine Running #200  
yep.. I'll take all my old mechanical engagement pto's..

soundguy

I have two seperate mechanical levers to engage my PTO's...............so I connect my PTO shaft('s )while the engine is running.

If mine were electrical, I would do things differently.:)
 

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