How do you tie down tractors when hauling on a trailer?

   / How do you tie down tractors when hauling on a trailer? #191  
My remaining concern is how the back of the trailer may dip when I drive on, and if that will lift the back of the vehicle too much.

I plan to chock vehicle and trailer tires when loading. If there is too much movement, I may have some stabilizer jacks welded to the back of the trailer, or even have braces welded to the tailgate (like I would have gotten with equipment hauler ramps). For now, I have some landscape timbers I can stack under the trailer if needed. If anyone has input on this stuff, I am all ears!

Get a pair of basic automotive jack stands that are the right size and put them under the rear corners when loading/unloading. Make sure they are not too tall (or set too tall), because the trailer will drop when loaded of course. It is easiest to set them with the trailer loaded so you know they are too tall and risk getting them stuck. Depending on the weight of what you are loading, the tow vehicle, etc, you could actually lift the rear axle of the tow vehicle off the ground (extreme cases). Now you have a BIG problem as things will start to roll...
 
   / How do you tie down tractors when hauling on a trailer?
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I ran through a full on calculation of tongue weight that would occur while driving my B2920 into the trailer, with and without the box blade. You can see the results in the attached graph. It's very interesting -- start out at the nominal 160 lb of tongue weight from the empty trailer, and then it begins creeping down and goes negative as the front tractor tire rides up the tailgate ramp. That increases slightly (but still negative) as the front tire rides along the deck, and then decreases significantly as the rear tire starts riding up the ramp. Once both tires are on the deck and the tractor moves forward, tongue weight increases and eventually goes positive again. Eventually, it gets in the 400-450 lb range which is inline with 10% of the trailer+tractor weight. Note: these are all dead loads -- live loads could add to that.

So it looks like the worst I will see is about -1200 lb of tongue weight (or +1200 lb of lift if you want to think of it that way). That's not enough to lift the back of the MDX off the ground, but it's still offsetting about 2/3 of the normal rear axle load, so the rear suspension will probably be extended quite a bit (and the front will dive a bit). I think I will try to avoid this alltogether by blocking up the back of the trailer before I drive on -- leaving about 2" of space between the blocks and trailer as a first guess (can always back off and readjust blocks if they get pinched by the loaded trailer).

Once I can study the actual behavior, then I can decide if jacks make sense. I found some Fulton stabilizer jacks good for 3000lb each. They are square tube, locked with a pin, and slide within 2" tube that can be welded to the trailer frame:

Fulton Drop-Leg Stabilizer Jack with Mounting Channel - Weld-On - 20" Leg - 13" Bracket - Fulton Trailer Jack FSJ1-SJ4

Now, interestingly, you can also buy just the drop leg:

Fulton Square Drop Leg for Stabilizer Jack, 20" Long Fulton Trailer Jack FSJ40324

My trailer happens to use a 2" tube for the rearmost rail post. It carries tail light wires right now, but if I can re-route the wires, that leaves a nice long 14" tube that could hold the drop leg. I can then drill a 1/2" hole in the tube, and slide a pin in there to position the drop leg. That might end up being a pretty slick way to get it done without having to weld anything. I just need to make sure there will be enough range of motion for ground clearance when the leg is up, and support when the leg is down. The trailer has about 16" of ground clearance at the rear, so a 20" leg inside a 14" tube would eat up 6" of ground clearance at the back (leaving 10" -- not bad) and give me 4-6" of leg inside the tube when extended. Seems like it might fly.
 

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   / How do you tie down tractors when hauling on a trailer? #193  
The easiest long-term solution will likely be to just weld supports to the trailer tailgate. You can see the supports in the picture of my trailer:


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When the trailer is level, and on level ground, the supports are a couple inches above the ground. When loading or off-loading, the back of the trailer dips down and the supports contact the ground.



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   / How do you tie down tractors when hauling on a trailer? #194  
A couple of you folks have said you leave your tractor in neutral when it is tied down to your trailer. Why? I always leave mine in low gear, low range, and have the parking brake locked. Always seemed to me that would be best.

Corm
 
   / How do you tie down tractors when hauling on a trailer? #195  
Tie it down like its done in these pics that I took this past summer at a ATHS show in Macungie,PA.

What's the advantage to the strap/chain combination? It seems the strength advantage of using the chains is canceled by using those short sections of strap. Please tell me where I'm wrong.
 
   / How do you tie down tractors when hauling on a trailer? #196  
What's the advantage to the strap/chain combination? It seems the strength advantage of using the chains is canceled by using those short sections of strap. Please tell me where I'm wrong.

The strap is to keep the chain from messing up the paint on the tractor.
The strap is an "axle strap" and is intended to go over an axle without getting cut.

Aaron Z
 
   / How do you tie down tractors when hauling on a trailer? #197  
I personally have seen a lot of equipment damaged from using a chain that is put over an area that it should not have been there.
I use a combination of straps and chain depending what I am securing. Going over a tire I definitely want a strap. To the front I use a chain, securing it to the back I normally use a strap to pull it tight then I look at the side to side.
 

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