How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ?

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   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #201  
I don't carry illegally, so your analogy doesn't fit me. In Texas I can have a handgun in the car without CHL. That's close enough to my person, I think I need to protect myself in almost any situation, away from home. HS

Sorry, I was not trying to lump you in any category (hence the specific exclusion in my first sentence). Secondly, the post you referenced was not my post about legal or illegal carry, but rather being placed on a CCDW "list" heightens a persons chances of persecution.

Hope you didn't feel like I was trying to pick on you. Once again, sorry if it came across that wasy.

Good luck and take care.
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #202  
I have been in law enforcement for 30 years and will retire some day. I have held a state permit for 34 years, 4 years prior to LE career. Do I need it? No I can carry with my badge and ID and like Bird really don't need it when retired, just need to qualify at my or a local department if I retire. But after 30 years of enforcing the laws I chose to continue to live by it by having the permit if I miss qualifications which are given maybe once a year I will still be legal.
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #203  
Sorry, I was not trying to lump you in any category (hence the specific exclusion in my first sentence). Secondly, the post you referenced was not my post about legal or illegal carry, but rather being placed on a CCDW "list" heightens a persons chances of persecution. Hope you didn't feel like I was trying to pick on you. Once again, sorry if it came across that wasy. Good luck and take care.
Not offended at all but thank you anyway. HS
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #204  
I was a federal LE guy for decades, now retired, I started the TX CHL process and stopped. I am very concerned the license will only put me on a list, and make me and my weapons a target of government someday in the future. HS.

E X A C T L Y

I actually took the class many years ago and had my paperwork ready to go. I just could not force myself to submit the forms and "register" myself with the government as a firearm owner.

There's no need to keep whipping this dead horse, so I'll close with just this ....

IF I am ever sitting on a jury for someone who is simply accused of carrying without a license ... the guy is NOT GUILTY. PERIOD.
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #205  
Sure glad I live in Canada
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #206  
IF I am ever sitting on a jury for someone who is simply accused of carrying without a license ... the guy is NOT GUILTY. PERIOD.

Well, you'll never be on such a jury, unless you lie during voir dire. No one is accepted as a juror who has already made up his mind in advance.:D
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #207  
Well, you'll never be on such a jury, unless you lie during voir dire. No one is accepted as a juror who has already made up his mind in advance.:D

So much for the jury system...:D
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #208  
Well said. And I sometimes wonder about the people who talk about "losing" gun rights, when they're becoming more liberal all the time instead of more restrictive. When I started in law enforcement 50 years ago, there was no such thing as Concealed Carry permits; it was illegal to carry concealed or otherwise, at least in Texas. Naturally, there were some exceptions, but the instructor at the police academy said, "If you catch someone carrying a handgun, you put him in jail and let him prove he meets one of the exceptions."

Even when I retired 25 years ago, Texas had no CHL. Then in later years we got such a law. I checked into it and decided it was too expensive, take too much time to obtain, etc. Then in 2004, we got a Federal law that made it legal for "honorably" retired law enforcement officers to carry, as long as they qualified on the firing range annually at the department from which they retired. At my wife's and friends' insistence, I did that.

And now . . . for anyone, not just law enforcement retirees, the length of time required for the CHL class has been cut in half, the cost and inconvenience of submitting fingerprints has been reduced, no renewal or re-qualification required for more than 4 years, and the cost of the application process has been reduced.

So . . . I decided instead of having to call the police range once a year, give them name, badge number, social security number, date of birth, etc. at least a week or two in advance, then drive all the way out there on a date on which they are having qualifications, maybe finding they have so many active duty officers shooting at that time that retirees get bumped to a later time, that I'd see first hand what it's like to get a CHL.

So I did the application online, didn't have to wait on the USPS mail service, went and got electronic fingerprints made and sent to the state Department of Public Safety (no ink, no mail), and a week ago Saturday attended the class and did the firearms "proficiency" test on the range.

And I can tell you this much. If you can read and write and can load a handgun and point it in the general direction you want to shoot, I don't know how it would be possible to fail the class or shooting test. Of course I easily scored 100% on the written test, but I was a bit embarrassed by a couple of low shots that made me only score 97.2 on the proficiency test. And I DO NOT consider myself to be a particularly good shot!

I don't understand why anyone would carry illegally when it's so easy to get a CHL and be legal.

You mean in Texas, the state so romanticized in Westerns, you have to prove you know which end goes BANG by attending a class? That's one more class than Indiana requires! hahaahaha
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #209  
If you're telling the truth about your background and experience, don't you think you're already on plenty of "lists"?:laughing: Most of us are, so one more wouldn't matter. I was fingerprinted by the US Post Office when I was 19 and started to work there, then I was 24 when I was fingerprinted by the Dallas Police Department when I started to work there, and I was 46 when I was fingerprinted by the Dallas FBI office and was accepted to go to the FBI National Academy. And now, I understand that the next time I renew my driver's license I'll be fingerprinted there.:laughing:

Maybe I'm just too old to be paranoid.:laughing:

Heck, I got fingerprinted recycling aluminum cans!
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #210  
As someone said its so easy to get a CCW
'Someone' lied.

San Diego and Los Angeles (about 7 million people?) do not grant CCW license, even after the courts said they had to and they agreed to do so.
 
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