How much rust can under-body spray stop?

   / How much rust can under-body spray stop?
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   / How much rust can under-body spray stop? #82  
Crown's YouTube video presentation, is well produced.

Though, they do incorrectly refer to front fenders as, "front quarter panels". :eek: Perhaps that's a Canadian thing, a?

Having fixed the rust, from seemingly millions of rustproofing drill holes, I would not let anyone, drill any holes, until the convinced me they have a fool proof way to seal the bare metal, they create from doing that.

Putting a little of the product around the opening, has never worked in the past, so don't fall for that.

I have had some success, with brush on window weld primer.

The problem is, the plugs fit so tightly, they push off anything you try to coat the edges of the holes with. And, the caps not only draw water, through capillary action, they also hold water there.

This problem is not as bad on a vertical surface. But, on horizontal surfaces, like rocker panels, it's really an issue.

If they still have not come up with a good solution for this, shame on them. The industry has had decades to figure it out.
 
   / How much rust can under-body spray stop? #83  
Again, Moss' data is skewed. And your idea that Missourians might only drive on salted roads once or twice a year is ridiculous. When I was working I drove 22 miles one way on either an Interstate Hiway (I35) or a National number Hiway (69). They get salted if snow/sleet is even in the forecast. Bridges all get salted when frost is predicted. This begins in November and runs thru February. Granted it might not happen as often as it does in Michigan. But don't be na?e and think it's only once or twice a year. :)

Moss' data is skewed because the majority of State hiways in Missouri are very, very rural. They only get their snow bladed off if it's 6" or more. They only get salted at stop signs/intersections. So the data is accumulated by simple math. X number of miles of State roads. X number of tons of salt purchased. Has nothing to do with where the vast majority of Missourians drive. :)

Don't get me wrong here,,,,, I am not in any way jealous of how fast you guys can rust out a vehicle. My truck is parked in a heated shop. Never sits outside overnight. I limit my driving on salted roads every chance I get. But I still get on my knees and wash the underside of my truck thoroughly 5 or 6 times during salt season. My 16 year old truck is beginning to rust. Cab corners, rear of front fenders, nothing on rear bedsides yet. I can't wash out my cab corners or the rear of my front fenders. But I can wash out my rear bedsides. Coincidence? :)

They do the same thing in Michigan, with the minor highways only getting salted and sanded at intersections. They don't salt every time they plow and they don't salt every mile of highway.

In 2014 Michigan purchased 645,000 tons of salt for 9700 miles of state highway, or about 66 tons per hwy mile.

In 2014 Missouri purchased 220,000 tons of salt for 33,000 miles of state highway, or about 6.7 tons per hwy mile.

Michigan uses 10X the amount of salt per state highway mile on less than 1/3 the total state highway miles that Missouri does. Missouri would have to apply all 220,000 tons of its salt on only 3300 miles of its 33,000 miles of hwys to equal the salt exposure in Michigan.
 
   / How much rust can under-body spray stop? #84  
Krown.. Without a doubt. If no crown dealer nearby check your local Mack/Volvo heavy truck dealer because Krown is OEM for their rust proofing. This is a 5gal pictured in my shop
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As to how it works, I got a 1995 Toyota Tacoma, you know, the ones that rotted so bad toyota did a "recall" on them and bought many back!! Mines been Krowned since new (Ive been doining it the last several years on my own) and its rust free on the body (other than one chipped section on the wheel wells). Frame is solid too. Im sold on the product, especially if you do the "Full Monty" and let them drill your baby to access the hard to get parts around the door and sills.
 
   / How much rust can under-body spray stop? #85  
Scoob, how do you apply it, and what would you say it is similar to, undercoating that hardens or FF?
Do you remember what a 5g bucket costs?
 
   / How much rust can under-body spray stop? #86  
Front quarter panel = front fender = wing
 
   / How much rust can under-body spray stop? #87  
I'm in northern Ontario where they go crazy with salt on the highways, plus that liquid stuff that is even worse. I have a 1995 Ford Explorer with 500,000 KM's that I spray with Krown. I had to change the muffler, because the heat burns it off, but the shop was amazed the bolts came right out. I've never had to repair electrical or sensors, hinges or body work. I swear by it.
That's what the use on all the highway dept. plow trucks here too.

I don't have pics of the Ex on my laptop and I'm not at home, but here is my truck that has been hauling salt since new in 2013. I spray all the aluminum with Krown to keep it shiny over the winter and all the pigtails on the lights.
Look what the salt did to the black hydraulic oil tank over the winter.

Good testimony!!! Very nice Dumper!!!
 
   / How much rust can under-body spray stop? #88  
They do the same thing in Michigan, with the minor highways only getting salted and sanded at intersections. They don't salt every time they plow and they don't salt every mile of highway.

In 2014 Michigan purchased 645,000 tons of salt for 9700 miles of state highway, or about 66 tons per hwy mile.

In 2014 Missouri purchased 220,000 tons of salt for 33,000 miles of state highway, or about 6.7 tons per hwy mile.

Michigan uses 10X the amount of salt per state highway mile on less than 1/3 the total state highway miles that Missouri does. Missouri would have to apply all 220,000 tons of its salt on only 3300 miles of its 33,000 miles of hwys to equal the salt exposure in Michigan.

Most of your statements above made my case. Missouri has the most miles of State maintained roadways in the Nation. I have no data to support the distribution of their winterizing materials. But rest assured, the Interstate Hiways and numbered national hiways get the vast majority. So if you are one of the unlucky ones that use those roads all the time you are constantly getting salted. If on the other hand you don't use those roads regularly you might qualify as not being exposed to much corrosive material. I would never claim that Missouri has as much hazardous weather as Michigan for example. But don't be naïve and assume Missourians are not exposed to corrosive roadways. :)
 
   / How much rust can under-body spray stop? #89  
Krown.. Without a doubt. If no crown dealer nearby check your local Mack/Volvo heavy truck dealer because Krown is OEM for their rust proofing. This is a 5gal pictured in my shop
IMG_4966_zps0fb7e079.jpg



As to how it works, I got a 1995 Toyota Tacoma, you know, the ones that rotted so bad toyota did a "recall" on them and bought many back!! Mines been Krowned since new (Ive been doining it the last several years on my own) and its rust free on the body (other than one chipped section on the wheel wells). Frame is solid too. Im sold on the product, especially if you do the "Full Monty" and let them drill your baby to access the hard to get parts around the door and sills.

More great testimony. Detailed pics of the Toyota might have spoken more than a pic of the can. :)
 
   / How much rust can under-body spray stop? #90  
They do the same thing in Michigan, with the minor highways only getting salted and sanded at intersections. They don't salt every time they plow and they don't salt every mile of highway.

In 2014 Michigan purchased 645,000 tons of salt for 9700 miles of state highway, or about 66 tons per hwy mile.

In 2014 Missouri purchased 220,000 tons of salt for 33,000 miles of state highway, or about 6.7 tons per hwy mile.

Michigan uses 10X the amount of salt per state highway mile on less than 1/3 the total state highway miles that Missouri does. Missouri would have to apply all 220,000 tons of its salt on only 3300 miles of its 33,000 miles of hwys to equal the salt exposure in Michigan.

And the snow/ice vary's quite a bit from northern Missouri where Richard lives from down here in extreme southern Missouri where I live. We use even less salt, and probably by a large margin. We also use beet juice down here instead of salt for a pre treatment or so I have heard. Not saying we can't have some rust problems, but I don't think it is the problem that you guys up north have or even Northern Missouri would have.
 

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