How quickly can it happen?

   / How quickly can it happen? #42  
That's awesome! Grok is probably way faster than chatGPT for video processing.
Grok imagine is insane. That was just your pic, then "make vid of dogs and pulling Santa's sleigh"
Better prompts would result in better stuff....
 
   / How quickly can it happen? #43  
A helper at my in-law's farm flipped a tractor backwards. The chain was around the rear axle. Although I wouldn't want to be the test pilot, my thought is that the attachment point doesn't simply need to be lower than the rear axle. It needs to be something that is extended to the rear of the axle and not able to move up or down like the drawbar that came with my tractors. Something that comes out even a bit higher than the rear axle would work if it was solid and long enough. The tractor could only rotate until the attachment point applied enough force to stop it. I can picture a chain that simply comes out under the rear axle isn't going to be effective.
 
   / How quickly can it happen? #44  
My lower arms are about the same height as the draw bar ... Maybe even a tad lower, but there isn't anything to stop them from rising ...

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   / How quickly can it happen? #45  
   / How quickly can it happen? #46  

I'm sure this is not new, but it is graphic!

But how did they get all those camera angles?
In a flippin' heartbeat
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Long ago while at a family reunion in Wapato, WA guy was disking an orchard next to the hotel. His large dog was jumping towards the tractor and he tried to discourage it with his foot. Problem for him was immediate because the bell on bell bottom jeans caught in tire lug and tractor stalled with him under rear wheel. Dad cleared the fence in a grab/leap and waited for ambulance but it was too late. He was so crushed all blood left as wheel rolled off. We kids saw it happen, started screaming, and learned our father was pretty spry for a mid 30s dentist. The picture above I was blading one of primary ranch access roads and caught a root ball. Dropped bucket and slammed blade down...everything stopped...then a tiny tilt to downhill. I saw light under rear tire in pic as I dove off the Massey. Had to hike over a mile for battery out of JD. On the way decided my F150 4x would anchor tractor. It did until slowly raising bucket with box scraper already up. Dropped loader, ran to door, jumped in and was glad I'd put it into 'crawl.' Pulled it enough to get loader even with road. Tractors can kill in a heartbeat.
 
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   / How quickly can it happen? #47  
How the heck did they get that footage from multiple angles? Almost seems staged. In any case, it only takes a 1/4 turn of the rear wheels to flip a tractor. It helps to have a FEL to make the tractor front-heavy.
It was already explained how he set up the cameras. Watch the full video posted above.
 
   / How quickly can it happen? #49  
I don’t think it’s AI simply because of the angles chosen and the fact there were 3 angles. The video was certainly planned but didn’t go according to plan. However, perhaps there was a little fudgery with camera speed at the point where he was getting out of the way. Then again, adrenaline tends to change a lot of aspects of human strength and speed. Regardless of how it was recorded, it’s a prime example of Darwin’s Theory of Selectivity when basic physics and rules are ignored. If the load you are trying to pull is that much larger than the tractor you are pulling with, you have the wrong tractor. If you are snatching a load with a chain like he was, you are flirting with disaster. While the chain breaking would be preferable to the rollover, it’s not much less dangerous because that chain suddenly becomes shrapnel coming straight at the operator.

It’s entirely possible that his first objective was to get the FEL off the ground and to accomplish that, he locked the brakes on the larger tractor. The more appropriate method would have been to lift the FEL with the 3-point lift and crib it to a sufficient height to put some sleeves on the FEL lift cylinders to hold it up and then a strap or chain to keep the bucket curled back. Then the load would only be horizontal (if not still way too big for the Freguson), and not pulling down on the rear of the tractor. There were plenty of ways to avoid this, and he ignored every one of them. I bet he understands a lot better now.

Before mocking or disparaging the use of a seat belt on more modern tractors, one needs to understand that the seatbelt is to protect the operator from the ROPS. The ROPS is to protect the operator from the weight of the tractor, primarily in sideways rollovers. If you don’t use the ROPS (folded down or removed) you stand a much higher chance of escaping the rollover by NOT using the seatbelt. This is documented by most manufacturers to avoid liability suits. Both or none is the general message. The ROPS being up without using the seatbelt is just another part of the tractor that will crush you. I admit, when I’m handling light stuff or digging with the FEL, I often operate without the seatbelt, but giving all due respect to the risks and dangers of what I am doing. I make sure to put the belt on any time the rollover risks become even a small factor.

Hands down, a hydrostatic drive system is far safer than a conventional clutch and transmission when trying to move heavy loads or pull stumps, etc. It can be better controlled without risk of a sudden change in torque caused by the clutch sticking when it gets hot or a rear tire grabbing on a root or rock.

If you think it’s safe to pull with the 3-point hitch, you’re almost right. This is relatively true if you connect at or below the lift pins and do not try to lift. Most 3-point systems do not have downward force on the lift and typically just float between fully raised and whatever level the lift is set for. Any time the chain or strap is angled downward above the center line of the rear axle, it will put downforce on the rear tires increasing traction and the risk of a reverse rollover. If you spin the rear tires going forward on a tractor, it’s giving you a lot of warnings that should be heeded
 
   / How quickly can it happen? #50  
He did not put it under entertainment. Someone else found his video and posted it on a different platform under entertainment.

I'm sorry, my mistake, I only watched the original OP, and didn't realize that someone else had copied it ... I wasn't aware that Rumble allowed that, as when I load a video to Rumble I need to certify that it's mine ...

I did just watch the full video you linked to in post #19 which was his video ...
 
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