How self sufficient are you ? Honestly ?

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If mankind minus one were of one opinion , Then mankind is no more justified in silencing the one than the one , If he had the power, Would be justified in silencing mankind .....Hmmmmm
 
   / How self sufficient are you ? Honestly ? #183  
Grumpy Old Man said:
If mankind minus one were of one opinion , Then mankind is no more justified in silencing the one than the one , If he had the power, Would be justified in silencing mankind .....Hmmmmm

I think that means to treat everybody nice. And not be...uh...grumpy? :)
 
   / How self sufficient are you ? Honestly ? #184  
If mankind minus one were of one opinion , Then mankind is no more justified in silencing the one than the one , If he had the power, Would be justified in silencing mankind .....Hmmmmm

Or answer 'B', truth is not the product of popularity.
It is the flaw in Democracy, the minority suffers through majority choice. In ethics it's called "rule utilitarianism"
 
   / How self sufficient are you ? Honestly ? #185  
It is the flaw in Democracy, the minority suffers through majority choice. In ethics it's called "rule utilitarianism"

Which a "republic" is supposed to be better at.
 
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Which a "republic" is supposed to be better at.

Not actually. The reason systems fail is because of man's flaws. In our Republic's case we have Capitalism driven by the political ideology flawed by man's greed. Democracy, socialism, etc., etc. fail because of a lack of compassion. Exactly what we're talking about here when we offer our friends and family for a McDonald's Happy Meal.
 
   / How self sufficient are you ? Honestly ? #187  
Seems like answer A covers B... With less detail. Of course, 100% of people won't comply with A, but...that is the unfortunate reality.
 
   / How self sufficient are you ? Honestly ? #188  
Seems like answer A covers B... With less detail. Of course, 100% of people won't comply with A, but...that is the unfortunate reality.

I think if we want to talk about survival as a species we have to think about the cord that connects us all. Of course the microcosm of that is surviving major disasters and our interrelationship to each other in our own groups and communities.
 
   / How self sufficient are you ? Honestly ? #189  
No way and anybody who says they could are delusional. The folks in Sandy's path are getting water from the outside world. If they weren't they would all be dead by now!

I have one of those water filters, but I don't know if it will clean up the water enough. I'd boil it too. But if the right chemicals are in it, I am probably a goner.

I think if it were just my household effected, I could make it for 8 mos. But if it is the entire area, which is more likely, I'd share with others making my outcome completely unknown.
 
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   / How self sufficient are you ? Honestly ? #190  
I have one of those water filters, but I don't know if it will clean up the water enough. I'd boil it too. But if the right chemicals are in it, I am probably a goner.

I think if it were just my household effected, I could make it for 8 mos. But if it is the entire area, which is more likely, I'd share with others making my outcome completely unknown.

What kind of filter? There's a filter used in developing countries that is quite good, it's called the Berkey. If you get it with the Black filters it's very good but you must get the filters from the UK. The filters made here fail or are defective from the start.

here's a link:
Big Berkey Water Filters & Purifiers - Free Shipping + 50% Off Discounts !

But I don't know where the filters come from. I do have one of these for emergencies but the filters separate at the base so polluted water passes by the filter. I can fix the problem but since I have a double filter system with UV in the house I don't use the Berkey. I do have a small one for our BOB (bug out bag).
 
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