How To Plumb Well Water Lines for 2 Homes

[Pettrix]

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[Pettrix]

Don't hold the brass nut but the fitting the brass nut screws on to. As long as you don't unscrew the brass nut off the fitting the pitless will be held tight to the casing. Teflon tape or pipe dope either will work. I use both with the tape first then dope over the tape. In my opinion Teflon paste is too slick and doesn't let the fitting get tight.

Thank you for the photo.

So that horizontal pipe that sticks out of the pitless has threads on the inside of that pipe to accept the male adapter?

So hold that pipe in place and leave the pitless lock nut alone.

 

[Pumpmd]

Thank you for the photo.

So that horizontal pipe that sticks out of the pitless has threads on the inside of that pipe to accept the male adapter?

So hold that pipe in place and leave the pitless lock nut alone.

Yes it has threads. The question is more like if he used a 1" pitless adapter or 1 1/4". Since he used 1 1/4" drop pipe, I would guess he used a 1 1/4" pitless adapter.

Do Not Remove that Brass Nut. That is holding all the weight in the well to keep your pump from falling to the bottom of the well or you could say that it holds it tight to the casing.

 

[Pumpmd]

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https://www.merrillmfg.com/sites/default/files/images/pitless/Adapter/features.jpg

 

[Qapla]

Friction loss is one of the reasons we ran 1.5" mainline for our 1,000 feet that feeds three houses and a shop. Of course, since we are in Florida, we ran PVC and don't have to worry about the "freeze" or "ground thrust" do to changing temps

 

[Pumpmd]

These little boogers known as water savers aka flow restrictors, can slow the flow terribly down on a well system. This is where a constant pressure pump system comes into play by the homeowner not knowing about them.

I would show you the metal kind but I can't post pictures yet. Here is a link for the newer ones they are using now.

NEOPERL: Pressure Compensating Aerators

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[Pettrix]

Yes it has threads. The question is more like if he used a 1" pitless adapter or 1 1/4". Since he used 1 1/4" drop pipe, I would guess he used a 1 1/4" pitless adapter.

Do Not Remove that Brass Nut. That is holding all the weight in the well to keep your pump from falling to the bottom of the well or you could say that it holds it tight to the casing.

Yes, it is a 1 1/4" pitless adapter.

I will make sure the brass nut doesn't move .

 

[Pumpmd]

Yes, it is a 1 1/4" pitless adapter.

I will make sure the brass nut doesn't move .

The next question, do you have the tool for 1 1/4" Pex? You need a big hole open far enough to fit the bigger size tool in the hole to crimp the ring.



This brand is my favorite since it has a bigger ID on its pipe but it takes a special high dollar tool to use it. PEX Plumbing, Radiant Heating, and Cooling Tubing Solutions - Uponor

This place has the tools for both kinds. ProPex Expander tool is for the uponor.
PEX Tools , PEX Plumbing Tools , Wirsbo Expander Tool , Wirsbo Tool , PEX Cutter Tool - SupplyHouse.com

Find YouTube videos upondor being used on video - Bing video

upondor being used on video - Bing video

 

[Pumpmd]

Friction loss is one of the reasons we ran 1.5" mainline for our 1,000 feet that feeds three houses and a shop. Of course, since we are in Florida, we ran PVC and don't have to worry about the "freeze" or "ground thrust" do to changing temps
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[Pettrix]

The next question, do you have the tool for 1 1/4" Pex? You need a big hole open far enough to fit the bigger size tool in the hole to crimp the ring.

I am going to use SharkBite connections so I don't need the special tool to expand the PEX.

 

[Pumpmd]

I am going to use SharkBite connections so I don't need the special tool to expand the PEX.

You only need the special expanding tool for Upondor. Regular Pex only requires a tool to crimp/clamp the rings but both are costly for one time usage when you get beyond 1". How much is that special sharkbite fitting going to cost you? I am curious since the small ones cost a pretty penny. Sharkbite fittings are nice and we keep them stocked in our truck for special occasions.

 

[Pettrix]

You only need the special expanding tool for Upondor. Regular Pex only requires a tool to crimp/clamp the rings but both are costly for one time usage when you get beyond 1". How much is that special sharkbite fitting going to cost you? I am curious since the small ones cost a pretty penny. Sharkbite fittings are nice and we keep them stocked in our truck for special occasions.

The bigger the fittings (1"+) the more they cost.

The 1 1/4" male adapter for the pitless is $23
The 1 1/4" tee is also around $23

Once nice is that the fittings are easily removable if needed without having to cut or splice. Just use the removal tool and done.

 

[Pettrix]

Friction loss is one of the reasons we ran 1.5" mainline for our 1,000 feet that feeds three houses and a shop. Of course, since we are in Florida, we ran PVC and don't have to worry about the "freeze" or "ground thrust" do to changing temps

Home Depot and Lowe's doesn't carry 1 1/4" CPVC. Will have to probably purchase online.

SharkBite fittings only accepts CTS CPVC, not PVC

I want to use around a foot of SCH40 CTS CPVC at the well pit area and then transition to PEX.

 

[Pumpmd]

Home Depot and Lowe's doesn't carry 1 1/4" CPVC. Will have to probably purchase online.

SharkBite fittings only accepts CTS CPVC, not PVC

I want to use around a foot of SCH40 CTS CPVC at the well pit area and then transition to PEX.

Tan color collar is for Pex Pipe

http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/pdfImages/e5/e508b263-1af2-4277-80d9-5be1a84405fc.pdf

2016 Catalog
http://www.sharkbite.com/sharkbite/wp-content/uploads/SB_Catalog_2016.pdf

2XL fittings
Large Diameter Pipe Fittings & Other Large Bore Fittings

http://www.sharkbite.com/sharkbite/wp-content/uploads/SB_2XL_SpecSheet_010112.pdf

The place to buy one and you will need a different insert for Pex

SB113532M - SharkBite SB113532M - 1-1/4" 2XL SharkBite x Male Adapter

http://www.supplyhouse.com/SharkBite-SBTL35-1-1-4-PEX-Insert

 

[DieselBound]

I'd also like to suggest Uponor PEX. This type of PEX (they're the inventors of it) is able to deform and return to its shape; it will take freezing like no other plumbing materials. Connecting, which requires the expander tools, relies on a slightly larger band of PEX to compress back down on the connection (takes advantage of this version of PEX's "memory"); connections on this type of PEX are FAR superior to PEX-B (which you'll find in big box stores).

I was going to use it to do the plumbing of my pump and water treatment components but never did find out how it (PEX) held up to H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide), which I use to treat my water. And then started to wonder whether it would be subject to rodent damage (PVC, so far, hasn't been damaged by mice).

 

[Pumpmd]

I'd also like to suggest Uponor PEX. This type of PEX (they're the inventors of it) is able to deform and return to its shape; it will take freezing like no other plumbing materials. Connecting, which requires the expander tools, relies on a slightly larger band of PEX to compress back down on the connection (takes advantage of this version of PEX's "memory"); connections on this type of PEX are FAR superior to PEX-B (which you'll find in big box stores).

I was going to use it to do the plumbing of my pump and water treatment components but never did find out how it (PEX) held up to H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide), which I use to treat my water. And then started to wonder whether it would be subject to rodent damage (PVC, so far, hasn't been damaged by mice).

I've never seen mice going for Pex pipe but I do see mice going for electrical wire all the time. Flexible Metallic Conduit will fix that problem. I usually use this one LIQUIDTIGHT CONDUIT and I haven't seen any mice damage.

Buying Guide: Conduit at The Home Depot

 

[DieselBound]

I've never seen mice going for Pex pipe but do see mice going for electrical wire all the time. Flexible Metallic Conduit will fix that problem. Buying Guide: Conduit at The Home Depot

That reminds me... I still have this fried mouse carcass wedged in an outlet in one of my sheds. No plate over the outlet; mouse crawled in and... The ONLY place I don't have mice is in my feed shack! Thank goodness. That building is well sealed up and I never allow the doors to stay open for very long (never walk away with them open). Mice in the walls of the house. Mice tearing up my truck (which is now permanently scented with dead mouse!): my wife stuck some lavender stalks in it and it appears that works as a repellent.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled thread on plumbing...

 

[Pettrix]

That reminds me... I still have this fried mouse carcass wedged in an outlet in one of my sheds. No plate over the outlet; mouse crawled in and... The ONLY place I don't have mice is in my feed shack! Thank goodness. That building is well sealed up and I never allow the doors to stay open for very long (never walk away with them open). Mice in the walls of the house. Mice tearing up my truck (which is now permanently scented with dead mouse!): my wife stuck some lavender stalks in it and it appears that works as a repellent.

Rats and mice are a huge problem in rural areas. Pack rats are very common out here. If you leave a vehicle parked overnight, it will get attacked by mice/rats. No way around it except parking inside of a garage.

Hardware cloth is good. 1/4" galvanized metal is a good deterrent.

A good barn cat will also keep the population down but they are indiscriminate killers and will go after birds, which is not good.