How to safely fell this fallen tree?

   / How to safely fell this fallen tree?
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#11  
That should work as long as the bottom of the tree doesn't dig into the ground too badly. Once the top moves a bit it should break free and fall away from you.

This is what I am thinking as there is a bit of a lean and some amount of nudging should cause it to roll off to the direction it is leaning. I am thinking I'll put a cut in the base to provide some breakaway also.

I can't tell how deep in the ground it is, I could be surprised. I did have one similar some years back and discovered it was below the surface nearly 24". I won't be tackling this for a couple of weeks so any other thoughts are surely welcomed.
 
   / How to safely fell this fallen tree? #12  
You could try pulling from the base, maybe dig a small trench for the butt of the tree to move through if that can be done safely.

My Plan B would be pulling from higher up, through a snatch block if needed to keep you out of the fall direction.

I don't think I would try cutting it from what the picture shows. It looks fairly vertical and it is already lodged. I've used bcp's method of taking a leaner down by cutting off sections from the base, but never with a tree even half that size. There's going to be a lot of down force until you get a lot of it cut off which is going to make it unpredictable. Even a small tree, if it can slide down freely, will hit the ground with enough force to go in 3-4 inches after it buckles.
 
   / How to safely fell this fallen tree? #13  
I would pull the base out. If its dug in do a partial cut then pull to break off whats in the ground. A long chain is a must, a puller would be even better. I've done it that way before, if you can get the base to move your golden, until that its very scary.
 
   / How to safely fell this fallen tree? #14  
I wouldn't connect a tractor to the tree with a chain or rope. If it decides to do something unexpected it'll have the potential to drag your tractor the direction it wants to go.

The first thing I would do is look for widow makers. Anything that's dead or broken that could fall down from any of the trees most likely will. If I don't see anything I cut about 4 feet up from the bottom (but I also use the wood for burning so 4' makes 3 16" pieces). Usually two or three cuts and the tree is free to fall on it's own. After each cut I always double check for widow makers and make sure I have an easy route to get away from the tree. If I see anything that makes me pause I just put up some caution tape and leave it for mother nature.
 
   / How to safely fell this fallen tree? #15  
Widowmaker! Stay away from it! (unless hooking on a 100' cable/rope)
If it's a 80' top, then your rope needs to be >80'. You may think you're going to pull the bottom out, but if it's in the ground, the butt can act like a anchored lever, and over comes the top (on yer head!)
Using a rope or cable, pull the bottom out. If it's "anchored" too much at the ground, pull the top over by hooking the rope up as high as you can.
Don't start cutting on this, it's too unpredicatable. At best you might be able to get a hinge to open, at considerable danger to yourself, you'll likely bind the saw seeing how all the forces are downward, and even if the top slides off the cut (with some "help"), it just falls straight down and your left with the same situation, with very little gained.
 
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   / How to safely fell this fallen tree? #16  
Like others, this is not a tractor job. Need to put a ladder up and put a chain around it 15-20 feet up. Then pull it away from the tree it is laying against with a long cable/chain setup to get you out of the fall zone if possible. I use a chain come-along for this all the time to pull trees down in the direction I want them to go. That's how I take my trees down about 99% of the time. The other one percent, is when I don't, then have to hook up a comealong after I get into trouble... Like I should have in the first place. :)

Here is a couple of pictures of a leaning 85 footer I took down north of my house a few weeks ago. I have chains and cables to go about 200' if I have to.
 
   / How to safely fell this fallen tree? #17  
Can you get a feeling for how long the broken end is by looking at the broken top of the standing tree (maybe with binoculars?).
My first inclination would be to try to pull the bottom out, maybe first doing a saw cut half-way (or so)through just above ground level in hopes of snapping off the buried part.
If pulling didn't work, my plan "B" would be to try to get a cable or chain up high and pull the top down the way it is already leaning (ie, through the supporting trees).
If it was a bit smaller, I'd try an accordion felling approach, but this is a pretty big bole to do that with.
Bob
 
   / How to safely fell this fallen tree? #18  
Hook as high as you can, park behind and off to a side where you know the tree can't/won't fall, and winch it down to a snatchblock so the tree falls away from you.


My$.02USD,
Jake
 
   / How to safely fell this fallen tree?
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#19  
I am confident that I can safely attach and pull the base of the leaner. My unknowns are, can I really pull it due to sheer weight and depth. I think I will clear as much of a path behind the leaner in the direction I plan to pull. I am confident about the safety factor as I will be protected by other trees and the lean direction is opposite the pull direction.

Upon further inspection, the leaning tree may become lodged in a fork on the tree that it is leaning against. If it comes down in that fork and becomes lodged there then I have a different problem to solve.
 
   / How to safely fell this fallen tree? #20  
I am confident that I can safely attach and pull the base of the leaner. My unknowns are, can I really pull it due to sheer weight and depth. I think I will clear as much of a path behind the leaner in the direction I plan to pull. I am confident about the safety factor as I will be protected by other trees and the lean direction is opposite the pull direction.

Upon further inspection, the leaning tree may become lodged in a fork on the tree that it is leaning against. If it comes down in that fork and becomes lodged there then I have a different problem to solve.
In that case, I would first try pulling it from the top...


Aaron Z
 

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