How to use FEL to carry 500lbs up driveway?

   / How to use FEL to carry 500lbs up driveway? #31  
If you lift it using forks or the bucket, you should use a chain to keep it from slipping off. If you dangle it, then use a third chain to keep it from swinging.
 
   / How to use FEL to carry 500lbs up driveway? #32  
This is how I moved a 500 lb HVAC unit about 75 ft. Pulled it part way off of the trailer, lifted the end and then rolled the bucket back to lift it. I didn't realize how precarious it was setting in the bucket until after I took the picture. Couldn't get it in place fast enough then.
 

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   / How to use FEL to carry 500lbs up driveway? #33  
Before anyone gets their shorts in a knot - here are the specs from the Kubota website for the 3 PH (992 lbs. at lift point)(661 lbs. 24" behind). The LA203 loader is rated to lift 447 pounds using the 2.2 rule (Kg to Lbs.) at the top of the lift.

O.K. we old timers go through this issue every couple of years when most of one group moves on and another group joins up.

There are two different specs for the 3ph (and I'm not talking about force vectoring/leverage factor which decreases the amount you can lift as you get farther from the hitch). One spec is the actual true lift ability and the other is the weight listed in the manual by a whole bunch of different implements. If you look carefully, you'll see those are all implements you use while the tractor is moving.

Here's the problem. Your mischievous nephew from the city comes to visit and decides to joy ride your tractor. Your brush hog is on the back and the brat decides to race across your freshly furrowed field, perpendicular to the furrows. If your brush hog weighs the absolute max the 3ph can lift, the oscillation (abusive bouncing) is gonna break a joint or pulse the hydraulic fluid enough to blow a cylinder.

Implements that you use while in motion are given a max weight which allows a safety margin for this bouncing effect. You can lift heavier attachments than the weights listed, but if you do, then you abuse the tractor and something breaks due to that, Kubota can justifiably say you voided the warranty as well as injury liability by going over the spec'ed weight. Now a chipper, generator, log splitter, etc. are used while the tractor sits still. That's why they don't put weight limits on those attachments. You just go by the max lifting capacity. If the 3ph lifts it, fine. You just drive carefully to your job spot, lower the implement, and there's no bouncing that's going to damage the 3ph or hydraulics while the tractor sits still and the engine powers the stationary attachment.

So, you don't have to go by what the manual says for implement maximums. If you're a few pounds over, and you don't try to push the thing to the limit like a test pilot, there's probably not going to be a problem. Just use common sense!
 
   / How to use FEL to carry 500lbs up driveway? #34  
O.K. we old timers go through this issue every couple of years when most of one group moves on and another group joins up.

There are two different specs for the 3ph (and I'm not talking about force vectoring/leverage factor which decreases the amount you can lift as you get farther from the hitch). One spec is the actual true lift ability and the other is the weight listed in the manual by a whole bunch of different implements. If you look carefully, you'll see those are all implements you use while the tractor is moving.

Here's the problem. Your mischievous nephew from the city comes to visit and decides to joy ride your tractor. Your brush hog is on the back and the brat decides to race across your freshly furrowed field, perpendicular to the furrows. If your brush hog weighs the absolute max the 3ph can lift, the oscillation (abusive bouncing) is gonna break a joint or pulse the hydraulic fluid enough to blow a cylinder.

Implements that you use while in motion are given a max weight which allows a safety margin for this bouncing effect. You can lift heavier attachments than the weights listed, but if you do, then you abuse the tractor and something breaks due to that, Kubota can justifiably say you voided the warranty as well as injury liability by going over the spec'ed weight. Now a chipper, generator, log splitter, etc. are used while the tractor sits still. That's why they don't put weight limits on those attachments. You just go by the max lifting capacity. If the 3ph lifts it, fine. You just drive carefully to your job spot, lower the implement, and there's no bouncing that's going to damage the 3ph or hydraulics while the tractor sits still and the engine powers the stationary attachment.

So, you don't have to go by what the manual says for implement maximums. If you're a few pounds over, and you don't try to push the thing to the limit like a test pilot, there's probably not going to be a problem. Just use common sense!

Somewhere imbedded in this post there must be something pertaining to the OP's inquiry. Maybe something is being missed.

The OP intends to lift a heavy object and transport it some distance. He merely wants to mull over recommendations and then determine what is the best and safest way to utilize his tractor/FEL/3 PH to accomplish the task of getting it up a hill.

The consensus seems to be that the 3 PH is the lifting/transporting choice that makes the most sense - especially since it is probable that the OP's tractor will be the one eventually running the chipper off of the PTO while it mounted to the 3 PH.
 
   / How to use FEL to carry 500lbs up driveway? #35  
My only recommendation at this point is you should always try to keep the heaviest part
"be it the tractor or the load" on the uphill side.
Assuming the driveway is real steep.
If you think this is wrong, drive a bobcat up a steep hill with no load in the bucket.
 
   / How to use FEL to carry 500lbs up driveway?
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#36  
Thanks to all for all the advice and thoughts. I think the plan will be to first attempt to hook the 3PH and backup the driveway to keep the tractor from tipping, I will still have the FEL to counter balance anyhow. Second plan if the first fails is to wrap few straps around it and drag/pull up the driveway. I'll make sure to take some pics and report back later this coming Friday.
 
   / How to use FEL to carry 500lbs up driveway? #37  
Run over to Lowes or the Depot and get a couple of 2X4's and 4 casters and make a quick dolly. Then just either push or pull it up. You can always remake the dolly to fit your loader after. Total cost 30 bucks...tops.
 
   / How to use FEL to carry 500lbs up driveway? #39  
I don't see why you couldn't hook it onto the 3ph at the bottom of the driveway and just take it home. Fill the FEL with dirt or gravel first then hook up the chipper and it should be just fine to take it up that way. If your 3ph does not lift high enough to clear the pellet then just park the tractor onto a couple of 2x10's and try again. It will be easier then you think. Just all those large number of pounds sound scary to you. But they are not scaring your tractor a bit.
As you mentioned too. Pictures say 1001 words.
 
   / How to use FEL to carry 500lbs up driveway? #40  
Tomorrow is the big day. Lots of people are interested given the number of posts herein.

Pictures are a must if possible.
 

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