HST vs shuttle

[cphilip]

HST is the synthetic oil of the tractor world.... mo betta... LOL

 

[Steppenwolfe]

As it should

Also it will live on as long as the 覧 what is the best engine oil debate.

Hey, I would be remiss to not bring up what is the best brand of tractor as well... Just say'n.

 

[teg]

Hey, I would be remiss to not bring up what is the best brand of tractor as well... Just say'n.

ANY tractor brand is better than NO tractor... :cool2:

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Being new to the HST (meaning I know nothing about them) I have some questions for those who know more than I do. I was raised up running tractors from the age of 5 or 6 and was running my dads tractor solo around that age. I have only operated old school manual transmission tractors or a shuttle shift manual tractor so I have no real world experience with a HST. I have heard that the HST can and do lose power as they age do to the hydraulics weakening over time. I have even heard that it starts as early as 6 or 7 years old. I have been looking at and researching different tractors as I will be needing to buy one soon. I have almost 40 acres that is mostly pasture and mostly a hillside. I will be mowing, possibly putting up hay as well as feeding it in the winter. I will need to perform upkeep on the road and haul rocks. I would like to get a backhoe attachment for running water, electric lines as needed or just digging drainage or digging new cattleguard ditches. I also have a pond that I will be draining and cleaning out at some point. With all this in mind I would like your opinions and real life experiences to help me decide if a shuttle or a HST tractor is right for my needs. Once that is established we will then get into size and brand talks.

Thank you

Skip

Most new dozers are now HST. Dozers. Cat's wheel loaders up to 250hp are also HST. Nobody seems too concerned about losing power.

 

[mcfarmall]

Well as long as you are comparing don稚 forget gear drive tractors are not without their problems as well. Clutches don稚 last forever and are very expensive to replace on a tractor. Almost to the point that if you can稚 do it yourself an older tractor may not be worth repairing if you have to pay to have it done. Also I have seen more than one utility tractor with a destroyed gear transmission.

The old Farmall C is on it's third generation of skilled operators with the original clutch. I think the life of a clutch has more to do with the skill and habits of the operator than anything else.

I'd like to hear more about the CVT or iHMT trannys like the new Yanmars have in them. They sound very intriguing and I wonder if other manufacturers will be following suit.

 

[tman1020]

The old Farmall C is on it's third generation of skilled operators with the original clutch. I think the life of a clutch has more to do with the skill and habits of the operator than anything else.

I agree operator has a lot to do with it that being said it only takes one bad operator to ruin a clutch quickly. Another reason hydrostat could be an advantage. It’s much more forgiving to the amateur.

 

[Phillip w]

The old Farmall C is on it's third generation of skilled operators with the original clutch. I think the life of a clutch has more to do with the skill and habits of the operator than anything else.

I'd like to hear more about the CVT or iHMT trannys like the new Yanmars have in them. They sound very intriguing and I wonder if other manufacturers will be following suit.

I have to agree with the life of a clutch depends on the operator as well as what the tractor is used for. One thing people forget and some guys think their sub compact tractors are bullet proof, them old farmall were a pretty reliable, durable and rugged little tractor. They could take alot. I was not around the c much, but spent sometime around an h and an m. They were a good little tractor.

 

[Grumpa Wally]

When I purchased my 50 hp 12 spd shuttle shift tractor, the dealer let me test the tractors by hooking up a 7 shank spring loaded ripper and pulling it through some hard ground. I hooked up a 60hp HST and then the 50hp shuttle shift gear tractor. The 50hp gear tractor loved it and the 60hp HST worked hard. Both tractors accomplished the task, but the HST ate up torque before getting to the axles. I bought the 50hp shuttle shift and have never regretted the choice.

 

[ovrszd]

When I purchased my 50 hp 12 spd shuttle shift tractor, the dealer let me test the tractors by hooking up a 7 shank spring loaded ripper and pulling it through some hard ground. I hooked up a 60hp HST and then the 50hp shuttle shift gear tractor. The 50hp gear tractor loved it and the 60hp HST worked hard. Both tractors accomplished the task, but the HST ate up torque before getting to the axles. I bought the 50hp shuttle shift and have never regretted the choice.

Welcome to TBN Wally. Which Bahama are you from?

 

[Grumpa Wally]

Welcome to TBN Wally. Which Bahama are you from?

Thank you. I'm in beautiful Bahama, NC. I was a little hesitant to comment because some non Kubota owners take a hit commenting on the Kubota forum. I am now looking to go up a few hp and am going to test a M7060HD in the next couple weeks when the nearest Kubota dealer in Loiusburg gets the crated tractor put together.