Hydraulic scarifiers: various designs

   / Hydraulic scarifiers: various designs
  • Thread Starter
#62  
Sounds good, $350 off of the asking price.

Will it fit your quick hitch?

I sent my sister on a quest to the pole barn to measure things on up on my quick hitch. She measured my SpeeCo Cat 2 standard Quick Hitch to having 1/2" of play on inside of the Cat 2 lugs the Frontier BB4284, and an eyeballed center to center height of 14.5" from the bottom lugs to the center hook (N) on our chart. I eyeballed just under 15" out on the box blade itself and the official space is 14.88"

Anyway, I decided it must be able to fit and did a walk away over lunch and came back to execute the negotiation (he offered $2700 as low as he could go before lunch, I countered at $2500.00 after lunch and was predictably declined, and then I suggested we meet in the middle at $2600 which was accepted).

One thing Travis and Ted from Everything Attachments can take away from this thread is that if they make a hydraulic box scrapper that is compatible with a Cat 2 standard quick hitch, they need to market it as compatible with the quick hitch and they'll capture the heavy CUT market because nobody should be forced to do this many lifeline calls out to the collective knowledge of tractorbynet just to get a box blade to work with a Quick Hitch.

Thanks for all the help, everybody!

Onto photos.

Frontier had a BB1284 that is a duplicate of the Gannon HB84. The BB4284 tower is changed from the Gannon as well as the Cat 1, Cat 2 pins to get clearance for the Quick Hitch. The tower offsets the hydraulic ram to the right.

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Frontier uses an eccentric on each end of their blade to limit or lock down the tailgate. The tailgate is not rolled like EA and Gannon, but is stitch welded.

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Straight up Gannon design for lifting the scarifier bar up and out of the way.

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Like the Gannons, the rear moldboard is continuously curved to get the dirt rolling in the box.

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   / Hydraulic scarifiers: various designs #63  
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   / Hydraulic scarifiers: various designs
  • Thread Starter
#64  
Here is a Steve's Gannon Hitch Mod diagram.

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Steve, if you've got a dxf file you're willing to share, we can get that attached to this thread too.
 
   / Hydraulic scarifiers: various designs #66  
Thought most of the text from the email I sent you would be pertinent here too - here 'tiz

A word of warning - even with this mod, the top pin on mine is a bit tricky to get lined up - TnT is a must on that and other implements.

Also, mine's set up for Cat1, altho even the older Gannons have lower ears for both 1 and 2. So you may need to alter the amount of offset.

I beveled both the old ears and the new pieces (both 5/8" thick) til there was only about 1/8" left, then welded it up with 7018. To keep things from pulling out of position, I took some 3/4" allthread and cut pieces about 1/8" shorter than the spacing between ears, then ran 2 nuts onto the allthread, slid the "baby jack" between ears and ran the nuts out to maintain spread.

Two more longer pieces of allthread and 4 nuts per piece, and I'd locked the width down thru the pin holes. It was a ***** getting to the insides to weld, but not impossible. Whoever does the welds better be fairly good at OOP welding though :=)


Actually, that drawing originated in WinDoze Paint (yeah, I've used it a fair amount :=) - the only CAD pgm I'm fluent in is an ancient (DOS only) thing called Generic Cadd - been using it since the '80's, then Autodesk (who had bought it in self defense) finally stopped supporting it when Windoze took over. I have their older "QuickCad", which combination allows me to draw in one I'm used to, convert it to DXF, import that to QuickCad, fiddle with it a bit and print it. Neither pgm will take a bitmap and convert it to vector though. (Besides, once it's a bit map there's no point, other than markups maybe??)

Even thought I'm retired, I have more I wanna do than I EVER got paid to do :laughing: and all the monkey motion to print something out is getting even older than me :confused: sooo, about a week ago I dnl 3 or 4 of the higher recommended free cad pgms, haven't gotten around to trying any but Qcad's "teaser" pdf sounded logical to me (knocking on wood - why do I have a headache??!?:rolleyes:)

Hopefully one of those CAD's will "click" with me and I can do drawings fast enough to beat using a flat board and charcoal :D

If anyone has other questions I missed, about this mod or any other problems with the QH/Gannon combo, feel free... Steve
 
   / Hydraulic scarifiers: various designs #67  
Jenkins, being in business, if you ever might consider selling your Gannon I would go for Xfaxman's idea instead of mine if your tractor is big enough not to care about 3-4" longer arms with 1200# on it - it wasn't mentioned, but I would definitely NOT use the free-standing pins in that drawing on anything that massive.

I'm assuming "X" wouldn't either, looks like a "borrowed" thang just for illustration :D

Just a thought... Steve
 
   / Hydraulic scarifiers: various designs #68  
BTW, I think I posted another pic of a (now apparently discontinued) QH from Priefert - I'm strongly leaning toward either starting over or modding my HF QH for this. I'll post it if it's aready in my pics, stay tuned - View attachment 412362

Yup, it wuz already there :D...Steve

Bukit, I have one of those. If you need any measurements, let me know.
 
   / Hydraulic scarifiers: various designs #69  
Jenkins, being in business, if you ever might consider selling your Gannon I would go for Xfaxman's idea instead of mine if your tractor is big enough not to care about 3-4" longer arms with 1200# on it - it wasn't mentioned, but I would definitely NOT use the free-standing pins in that drawing on anything that massive.

I'm assuming "X" wouldn't either, looks like a "borrowed" thang just for illustration :D

Just a thought... Steve

Right, a google image search, trying to get the concept out there.

I don't have any experience with drawing software. I use Paint,net for what little I can do.

Thanks for adding your suggestion on the clevis pin mounts.
 
   / Hydraulic scarifiers: various designs #70  
X, you're entirely welcome - sometimes these "quick" hitches remind me of the snake oil salesman advertising "instant water" - directions - you just add water...:rolleyes:

Pappy, thanks for the offer - mainly I'd like to hear your opinion/reasons on that hitch - it appears they don't offer ANYTHING related to implements any more, other than "high speed chicken scratch stirrers" - makes me wonder how I'm gonna get my "lifetime guaranteed against breakage" tiller tines replaced :confused:

I grabbed that pic off their site when it was still available, thought I'd borrow the toplink scheme - my Caroni flail has Cat 1 spacing on the drawpins, and (approximately) Cat 2 spacing on tower height :rolleyes: I fabbed up a couple flat bars with holes in 'em short term, but simply pulling a pin and instantly adjusting top hook height seems 'way more "civilized".

I gotta stop ramblin' on, despite y'all bein' all polite :laughing: Gotta hopefully get more done on a pull-down stair for the mezzanine in my shop, would like to finish it in the next day or two.

Eric, congrats on your new goody - $2 a pound ain't all that bad for store-bought stuff these days :D...Steve
 
 

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