Hydraulic Tip 'N Tilt

[gordon]

Re: Hydraulic Tip \'N Tilt

Well Bird it goes to show that a picture is worth a thousand words. Great work! A t&t you will find is worth it's weight in gold. You are now HIGH TECH !!! I still have trouble pasting in a url. But I'll get the hang of this computer stuff as I go along.

Guess you'll give us an update once you get a few hours in on the tractor. If it ever dries up down there.

Great Job
Gordon

 

[Thomas]

Re: Hydraulic Tip \'N Tilt

Bird,
Looks like you put alot of thought and $$$ into your finish product.

Glad you sent pictures {w/ your new camera /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif} so I could understand better in what you were doing.

I bet your idea would work good mowing ditch lines also mowing around trees where the roots system surface.

Like your setup where all you have to do is back up to any attachment. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif



Thomas..NH /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

 

[caddison]

Re: Hydraulic Tip \'N Tilt

Bird,

Fantastic! I'd been waiting for the pics of your project. Great job. I am slowly gathering parts and information to do the same with my 1320. Man, now I am going to get a camera also. Glad I have a understanding wife!

Now a question. I picked up a loader control vavle that I was going to try and adapt for the tip'n'tilt. What do you think about this, will it even work. Nice thing agout it is that it has control for four cylinders and only one handle. I'll appreciate any feed back.-----Cliff

 

[Bird]

Re: Hydraulic Tip \'N Tilt

Cliff, keep in mind that I'm kind of a novice at this myself, but I don't see that it makes a bit of difference which valve you use, so long as it's an open centered valve (assuming that's what you tractor uses) and rated for the flow rate that your tractor is rated for. If it's a 4 spool valve, you'd only need two spools for the tip 'n tilt and the other two could be used for the loader; i.e., just have one valve for everything. Hmmm, that sounds like a good idea to me. Unless, of course, you put hydraulic cylinders on both side links like Mark Chalkley did.

Bird

 

[caddison]

Re: Hydraulic Tip \'N Tilt

Bird,

This valve would be specifically for rear hydraulics, I already have a FEL. I think all I need is two figure out how to get fluid to the valve. A single spool kit from NH that uses the factory lever position cost $418.00. This would only provide the hydraulics for the top link another spool would have to be added for the side link. If I can figure how to mount this valve and make it work it would deffinitely save a little cash, if not I can make someone a heck of deal on a FEL valve for a 7309 loader!----Cliff

 

[Bird]

Re: Hydraulic Tip \'N Tilt

Cliff, have you looked at the pictures LarryT posted of his B2910 where he used a steel plate attached to the ROPS by U-bolts? That's what I originally intended to do and what I would think you could do. I decided to just mount mine on the fender because it was small enough to do that conveniently. As far as getting the hydraulics to the valve, I don't know whether the New Holland has and optional outlet to the rear, though I would suspect they may. If not, then you need to come from the power beyond port on your loader valve to the new valve inlet and from the new valve inlet to wherever the power beyond hose now goes.

Incidentally, this novice learned something else, too. I was concerned about fittings leaking and how tight they would have to be, etc. It turns out that they do not have to be all that tight to seal, and it's quite easy to connect them all. Usually finger tight and no more than a quarter turn with a wrench, and nothing leaked except the one fitting that I forgot to tighten at all./w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif At least it was quickly and easily fixed.

Bird

 

[caddison]

Re: Hydraulic Tip \'N Tilt

Bird,

I'll have to check them out. That would be the most accessible place. I think I can come out from under the seat for the hydraulics. This is where the vale body for the factory single spool valve would attach if I were to use it. I'll have to look into whether or not I need some sort of plate to do this. I think I'll be able to save a considerable amount going this route. If it works /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif!----Cliff

 

[GlueGuy]

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Bird,

I know this is pretty much all said and done for you, but after lurking here for a while, plus the fact that I'm ordering a new B7500 (should get it next week!), I decided that getting T&T installed with the tractor might be a good idea.

I got bids for the tractor, FEL, Box Scraper, rear mower, and T&T from three different Kubota dealers in my area (S.F. Bay Area). It was interesting to me that the bids for this one item ranged from $749 (low price) to $1500 (high price) installed.

The low price was pretty amazing to me considering what you paid just for parts. FWIW the high price was for a Gearmore model TT241-2K 2 spool valve, and a Gearmore model VB-170-3K ROPS mounted valve bracket assembly.

The low price used the Gearmore model TT170-2K valve.

The dealer I'm buying the tractor from showed me the installed setup, and it is real clean and professional looking. The handles on the valves are tilted a little bit toward the drive seat, and naturally fall under your hands right where'd you expect them to be.

If folks are interested, I can post pictures of the whole setup on the forum next week after we take delivery.

GlueGuy

 

[Harv]

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GlueGuy -

I would be more than interested in seeing pictures. In fact, I'm also in the Bay Area (Walnut Creek) -- which dealer has the show-and-tell?

Oh, yeah -- Welcome aboard! /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

 

[Bird]

Re: Hydraulic Tip \'N Tilt

GlueGuy, of course we'd like to see the pictures. I've heard of Gearmore but know nothing about their model numbers or the differences in them. You say the handles tilt toward the drive seat; you may notice in the picture I posted today in the Tractor Customization forum that my handles tilt out from the seat - the handles I got first didn't have linkage that would work right because they were the wrong handles for that valve (personally I thought they ought to be straight up, but don't guess it makes much difference as long as they work right). And I think you're probably wise to get the dealer to do it to start with.

Bird