Hydraulic Tip 'N Tilt

Bird · Jan 19, 2001

Re: Hydraulic Tip \'N Tilt

Getting a picture of that rear hydraulic outlet (through the hoses and other obstructions) was a little more difficult, but we'll see how it looks. It's under the brace called a fender stay, so you can't immediately put a 90 degree elbow coming up, and if you attach straight hoses, you have to bend them up pretty quickly or you're back to ROPS

Bird

Rch · Jan 19, 2001

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Bird, great pictures! You mentioned earlier you had to bend one of the points of attachment of the cylinder so things wouldn't bind- is that the end on the right lower 3 ph arm ? Did that tend to misalighn the holes? I'm getting the itch to do this to my FORD 1910. I'm wondering if there is a smaller valve setup available, especially since you are putting in flow restrictors anyway?

RCH

Bird · Jan 19, 2001

Re: Hydraulic Tip \'N Tilt

RCH, the top of the side cylinder was straight instead of being offset, so I bolted on a couple of offset pieces of steel to attach the top end of that cylinder to the lift arm. Everything is too strong to do any bending (unless you heated it with a torch and maybe do some serious damage).

If you look between the hoses to the side link cylinder, and just above where the top hose connects, you can see the shiny bolt. The pieces I bolted on were some that I had on hand and were already painted black just like the cylinders.

BirdEdited by Bird on 01/19/01 09:08 PM (server time).

JackIL · Jan 19, 2001

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Nice work on the TNT. Where is the "filth" you were complaining about? Looks clean to me. Glad you have the new camera--you're going to love it!

Rch · Jan 19, 2001

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Bird, I see what you are refering to. So does this added 2" or so of length to that cylinder? Could this mess up the geometry if it was a tighter situation; or prevent the lower arms from being adjusted higher? I have a tree planter with a 22" coulter and I have to adjust the lower arms as high as possible to get that coulter to clear the ground when I lift it up. I do this by attaching the vertical lift arm( or in this case the 'tilt' cylinder) to a hole furthest out on the 2 horizontal arms that have the cat. 1 pin recievers. Put another way is the whole tilt assembly when retracted as short as the adjustable link on the other side when it is fully retracted ?

RCHEdited by Rch on 01/19/01 09:54 PM (server time).

Bird · Jan 19, 2001

Re: Hydraulic Tip \'N Tilt

RCH, let's see if I can explain this. Originally, the "fixed" link on the left side was 17" long, and the manually adjustable link on the right side was about 17" when it was centered, so it could go up or down from there. Now I've moved that adjustable link to the left, and put the hydraulic link on the right. The hydraulic link was 13" collapsed, if I remember right, with a 3.5" stroke. The extra pieces I bolted onto it actually lengthened it about 3", which I felt made it about the right length anyway. So what I've done right now (may change later after I use it awhile) is to set the hydraulic cylinder right in the middle of its stroke, then adjusted the left link to the same height so they're level. So now I can hydraulically raise or lower the right arm only about 1.75" from level. Of course, 1.75" at the arm makes the ends of the box blade move up and down considerably more than that, and I can tilt the blade both directions. And of course, if I need more than that, I can always re-adjust that manual link on the left and really get a drastic tilt in either direction.

So, I guess the answer to your question is, "No, the hydraulic link will not retract as short as the manually adjustable link, but it will retract as short, or shorter, than the fixed link that was originally on the left side."

Bird

Corm · Jan 19, 2001

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That's a very nice setup Bird! I've only seen a couple of tip and tilt setups up close, but on both of them it seemed there was lots of extra hose, making them look real messy. Yours is nice and neat. You're doing the TBN proud! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

That camera takes real nice pictures. It's making me anxious to break mine out of the box and play with it. Sorry the free reader deal wasn't for your model.

Corm

Harv · Jan 19, 2001

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Bird -

Your pictures are terrific!!! Really terrific! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

I might be almost as thrilled with your new camera as you are. /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

After all this time, we finally have a "window" into your world, way down there in Texas! I live with this kind of technology every day, but I never cease to be amazed at the things we can now do. Thanks to you and a few more up-and-coming digital camera enthusiasts, this board has just increased it's value even more.

The picts you just took are now resting comfortably in my own digital library of tractor stuff on my own hard drive way out here in Californy. I will probably bring prints with me the next time I visit that Kubota mechanic I told you about. This is too cool. /w3tcompact/icons/cool.gif

As to why your images look better when posted -- apparently your browser is doing a better job of rendering the jpg images than your editing software, which surprises me. Is it possible that you were viewing them at a different scale (maybe 150% of normal size), or a different color depth (maybe 256 colors) or something like that? You can use your browser to view image files on your own hard drive, if you want to do a little comparing.

What software are you using?

LarryT · Jan 20, 2001

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I have noticed that with some photo programs, particularly Microsoft Photo Editor, that the .jpg files look pretty crappy at LESS than 100%. In theory that makes no sense but it's really true. Look at the display size, and if it is not 100%, change it to 100% and you'll see an amazing resolution difference. Of course, it may be too big for the screen, but that is a different problem that can be fixed also.

Larry...

Bird · Jan 20, 2001

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Harv & LarryT, I've still got much to learn about digital photography. The software I'm using so far is what came with the camera from Olympus; Camedia? It's worked pretty well for lightening photos that appeared to be too dark. And I thought if a photo was taken at, say 1280x960 resolution, you could "shrink" it with the same resolution; just packed tighter together? Anyway the only way to "resize" that I've found so far is to reduce the number of pixels, which is what I did to those photos; took them down to 640x480. So now I know about what size they will appear on the screen, but to know what size they would print, I just have to print one to see. Oh well, I'll learn more as I go.

Bird